Whats the fastest time a HOBBY JOGGER can run??????

Anyone slower than you is a hobby jogger.

You mean for 2 miles, right?

somewhere between your 13:30 and about 20 or 21 minutes

Too many of you equate world class with elite. There is a difference you know. World class is good enough to qualify for the Olympics or World Championships based on time. That's 13:25 for 5000 m.

Elite represents world class and somewhat less than that. Considering that there are a million or two runners that participate in 5Ks in this country and even if you consider track times (somewhat faster than roads) maybe 100 or so actually run faster than 14:00--well somewhere in the 0.01% to 0.02% would pretty elite by anyone's standard. OOHHHHH! Well except for letsrun.

There can be 17-18 min hobby joggers, I suppose but you get faster than that and people are actually training for the distance.

10:00 is the cutoff between jogging and RUNNING. 11:00 if we're talking total-bad*** running, without aide of fuel belt or any GUs at all.

I ran a 13:35 with a fuel belt. Just had to have my water and gu! What time do you think I could run if I took that off?

if you are white

My hobbyjogger standards (roughly):

20:00 5k

1:40 half marathon

4:00:00 marathon

luv2run wrote:

Anyone slower than you is a hobby jogger.

I once went to Colorado Springs. 'Twas a disappointing redneck town.

Damn straight.

luv2run wrote:

Anyone slower than you is a hobby jogger.

Religious nutbar wrote:

luv2run wrote:

Anyone slower than you is a hobby jogger.

I once went to Colorado Springs. 'Twas a disappointing redneck town.

Once at a sitdown Mexican restaurant they asked my drink and I said "Can I get a coke?" They said "Sure thing, coming up!" A few minutes later they bring out a Pepsi.

I drank it but it was disgustingly sweet, and not the good kind but the bottom of the cereal bowl after Frost Flakes kind. 'Twas dissapointing. All I wanted was a Coke!

Use of the term "hobby jogger" in a subject header isn't used by grownups anymore. Didn't you get the memo?

So Almaz Ayana and Genzebe Dibaba are hobby joggers?

A hobby jogger is anybody who runs without a plan to develop. 4 miles everyday types.

A runner is somebody to trains with a plan: Changing milage, progressing workouts, improvement

You'd need to define your term. It's vague but is generally taken to mean someone who runs for enjoyment and doesn't really do sorts of running that would detract from enjoyment in exchange for faster performances. That would describe guys like Jack Foster who ran a 2:11 marathon at 41 and won a silver Commonwealth Games medal or Richard Wilde who had the indoor world record for 3,000 meters and probably a lot of other people who most of us can't come close to beating.

It depends on the company they keep

For decades I have run in a park on a 5K loop that on any sunny weekend, has thousands of runners/joggers. Up until age 50, I ran 7:00-7:30 pace and got passed maybe 2-3 times a year. Now I run 7:30-8:00, and get passed by one person/2 visits.

I think the cutoff is about 8:30/mile at regular training pace (not recovery days).

The politically correct term is "recreational people of wealth".

Given Farah's shenanigans in the WC 10000, I look forward to Mo showing up at the starting line in Rio sporting a fuel belt and hand-carried water bottles.

Goey wrote:

I ran a 13:35 with a fuel belt. Just had to have my water and gu! What time do you think I could run if I took that off?

Can't we just call them recreational runners, people who run for the sheer enjoyment?

I know 5 hour marathon runners who work their butts of but simply don't have the talent to run much faster.

Daniels says there are 4 types of runners. To paraphrase

1. Those with talent and motivation

2. Those with talent but no motivation

3. Those with motivation but no talent

4. Those with no talent or motivation

#4 are hobby joggers.

I'd say there's also a 2a or 3a defined as those with motivation but unrealized talent.