With Aman and Amos out, I wonder what Symmond's medal chances would've been. Couldn't picture him winning, of course, but maybe the opportunity was there.
With Aman and Amos out, I wonder what Symmond's medal chances would've been. Couldn't picture him winning, of course, but maybe the opportunity was there.
Team Nike/USA is getting OWNED
Gatlin OWNED by Bolt
Gay, Rodgers out of medals
Jager OWNED by Kenyans
Rupp OWNED by Kenyans/Farah
No 800 men in final. OWNED.
Mere bronze in w100. OWNED.
It is all in Nick Symmonds' plan, as the only US runner who wasn't gonna end up getting OWNED, to punish Nike/USATF by refusing to go so they would lose.
Next up: m400 OWNED. Merritt has only a slim chance of winning. When has the US not dominated the m400?
I don't believe Emily Infeld, a Nike athlete, got owned
Bad Wigins wrote:
Team Nike/USA is getting OWNED
Gatlin OWNED by Bolt
Gay, Rodgers out of medals
Jager OWNED by Kenyans
Rupp OWNED by Kenyans/Farah
No 800 men in final. OWNED.
Mere bronze in w100. OWNED.
It is all in Nick Symmonds' plan, as the only US runner who wasn't gonna end up getting OWNED, to punish Nike/USATF by refusing to go so they would lose.
Next up: m400 OWNED. Merritt has only a slim chance of winning. When has the US not dominated the m400?
So, with the exception if Bolt (Puma) your argument is that Nike is getting owned because almost exclusively Nike athletes are getting to the finals and are beating each other?
Nike isn't about 2nd loser Bronze Medals
To actually answer the question in the post:
Sadly, I think he did. Even if Aman and Amos made the final, Symmonds still had a shot at a medal.
I really wish he would have signed the deal, packed his Brooks gear, worn the national uniform when he absolutely had to, told them to f off the rest of the time, and raced here in these WCs. THEN he could go after the absurdity of the rules. Why waste your chance like this?
The Stache wrote:
To actually answer the question in the post:
Sadly, I think he did. Even if Aman and Amos made the final, Symmonds still had a shot at a medal.
I really wish he would have signed the deal, packed his Brooks gear, worn the national uniform when he absolutely had to, told them to f off the rest of the time, and raced here in these WCs. THEN he could go after the absurdity of the rules. Why waste your chance like this?
I agree with you. Nick took a stance to make a valid point but the decision hints (to me) a lack of confidence in his competitive fitness.
Best to him and his cause.
Totally made a mistake. No one is really talking about this anymore. Would have made a better statement to challenge the policy in China while a member of the team, if anyone told him what to wear in his free time. No one hassles him he gets to run and its business as usual. Someone does hassle him and he gets to make Nike look absurd for telling a Team USA athlete what to do in their free time and most likely still gets to run.
I don't think it had anything to do with his confidence in his fitness. The semi-finals proved that anyone can blow it for any reason in the 800 and it won't be held against you.
I think he just misjudged how unimportant every individual athlete is to USATF.
Of Course he made a mistake. He is the only athlete not to run because they have to wear the team apparel at team functions.
What a dumb move.....and for what reason?
The Stache wrote:
To actually answer the question in the post:
Sadly, I think he did. Even if Aman and Amos made the final, Symmonds still had a shot at a medal.
I really wish he would have signed the deal, packed his Brooks gear, worn the national uniform when he absolutely had to, told them to f off the rest of the time, and raced here in these WCs. THEN he could go after the absurdity of the rules. Why waste your chance like this?
Totally agree with this^^^
Fans of the sport and the 800 are the ones being punished.
Question Mark wrote:
With Aman and Amos out, I wonder what Symmond's medal chances would've been. Couldn't picture him winning, of course, but maybe the opportunity was there.
Absolutely made a mistake!
It has nothing to do with Aman and Amos or what place he would have gotten and personally, I think he would have struggled to make the finals. He choose the wrong fight, for the wrong reasons and at the wrong time. He would have had way more impact if he had joined the team and made a statement at the meet and/or gotten other athletes to join in his cause. The fact that no other athlete is with him on this issue or at least not enough for give up a WC slot, kind of tells you all you need to know. Please don't blame Nike for behaving the way corporation is suppose to.
Got lucky i guess
Well Vernon wrote:
I don't believe Emily Infeld, a Nike athlete, got owned
Totally agree, he made his point, got in the NY times and still had time to sign the dumb document and go do what he is supposed to do...run against the world's best. Had to laugh when Leo Manzano posted a selfie wearing his Hoka polo while on his flight to Beijing. Was it not an "official" flight?
When getting into Paris interferes with getting into Beijing I guess Paris wins.
Get lucky wrote:
Got lucky i guess
Well Vernon wrote:I don't believe Emily Infeld, a Nike athlete, got owned
No but Molly Huddle got OWNED
Huddle runs for Saucony
He showed his cards too early, but once he gave the ultimatum, he had to follow through. A miscalculation, but he did benefit from the press and got usatf to chill out a little.
I hope he can pull off another good race at the 2016 trials.
themanontherun wrote:
So, with the exception if Bolt (Puma) your argument is that Nike is getting owned because almost exclusively Nike athletes are getting to the finals and are beating each other?
All the good steeplers and 800 men are Adidas athletes.
Have you seen the joke Nike national team jerseys? They are literally the EXACT same pattern for each country, except with different colors and of course lettering.
Nick Symmonds made an informed decision in the midst of chaos. When it all plays out, Nick will get more money (from Nike via USATF, and from exposure) than he could have from winning IAAF world championships, and the system will have been changed in the favor of many pro athletics athletes. (Look it up if you don't understand that last 2-word phrase, Nostradamus.)
Nick Symmonds is a True American Hero.
Now, on the subject of the racing: Nick would have made the final from the first semifinal, but only because of Aman's DQ. Nick would have run from the back of the pack and finished fifth, depending on the faltering of other runners that didn't play out as four of them finished strong. Nick would not have advanced from the second semifinal with Rudisha leading slowly. He would have finished 3rd and advanced from the third semifinal.
In summary: Did Nick make a mistake? Regardless of how it played out, on policy, the answer is No. As measured by Yes = Made the Final, however, the answer is Probably (66.7 %.)