Breaking: Victor Conte Claims Huge Doping Cover Up At The 1988 Olympics With Flo-Jo And Others; Corruption In WADA

American doping coverups in 1984 and 1988?

This is no surprise having watch "The Race That Shook The World".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL5SQzckaNQ

Exactly what makes anyone believe Victor Conte is credible?

The elites are doping and have been for decades. The top college runners are doping and have been for decades. The top high school runners are doping and have been for years. A coach is measured by his connection to PED markets, not by his training strategy. There are so many stories out there of the top runners doping. The problem is that so many are doing it that it would ruin the sport to disqualify everyone. Seriously, there are some Olympic races, maybe most, that everyone would be disqualified if the released the tests. And if they did pass it was only because they found a way to pass the test. You can't have competitive running without doping.

So what is the solution???? Legalize.

The only thing explosive here is Victor contes gargantuan ego

Give me a break wrote:

Exactly what makes anyone believe Victor Conte is credible?

I don't know if he is credible or not. He does have a history of being involved in doping, so it is at least plausible. Does he have a history of revelations of insider knowledge that have later proven true? I do believe his testimony in the Balco case checked out.

I do acknowledge that this is newsworthy, as it is based on Conte stating things that he had direct and specific knowledge of. This is in contrast to his opinions of what he said about the NOP, which was not based on direct knowledge.

I don't think WADA was around then, so the 1988 is not so relevant to me.

We already knew there was an organized cover-up in 1984, so having that extended to 1988 is significant but not exactly earth-shattering.

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USATF is the new TAC wrote:

American doping coverups in 1984 and 1988?

It is a little bit ironic that Ben Johnson was busted at the same Olympics, which also featured Flo-Jo (and others).

You have to feel for Ben a little here...

Shockingly, johnson's test was positive for a steroid that he didn't take. He admits to roids, but denies to this day that he had never taken what he came back positive for. Flo Jo and Jackie were basically men with wigs after their drug regimens.

Pretty sickening, eh wrote:

Shockingly, johnson's test was positive for a steroid that he didn't take. He admits to roids, but denies to this day that he had never taken what he came back positive for. Flo Jo and Jackie were basically men with wigs after their drug regimens.

How do you know that ? Because he said so ? I guess that if B. Johnson said it, it must be true then ? It is a well known fact that he's a parangon of virtue who wouldn't ever lie to try pass as the victim....

On the other hand, Conte isn't really talking about actions he directly participated in, which lowers his credibility a bit in my mind.

The three biggest things he alleges are attributed to unnamed officials who in one instance he "overheard" and in two other instances were passed on second hand to him and he was not in the room when they were uttered.

Regardless...in the ESPN 30 for 30 about Ben Johnson et al. the USA testing team admitted to covering things up. Carl tested positive (though the substance is no longer banned) and then there are the test results that 'randomly' disappeared.

Is anyone really surprised? They were all dirty and they know it.

Wow. Big bombshell about Salazar/Rupp/Farah and the Jamaicans.

USATF is the new TAC wrote:

“So here’s what Dick (Pound) asked me to do: He said I want you to give me a list of six athletes and coaches that you believe are using performance-enhancing drugs and what tests you would do, and how you would approach this. In other words, if you were king for a day what would you do with anti-doping? That was a specific question he asked me.”

Conte complied with Pound’s request. He named the following: coach Alberto Salazar and distance runners Galen Rupp and Mo Farah; sprinter Carmelita Jeter and hurdler Jason Richardson under John Smith; and Jamaican speedsters Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake and their coach, Glen Mills.

“Here’s what I specifically advised that they do: Go back to the (urine) samples that were collected that are frozen for these athletes,

Trustingliars wrote:

Pretty sickening, eh wrote:

Shockingly, johnson's test was positive for a steroid that he didn't take. He admits to roids, but denies to this day that he had never taken what he came back positive for. Flo Jo and Jackie were basically men with wigs after their drug regimens.

How do you know that ? Because he said so ? I guess that if B. Johnson said it, it must be true then ? It is a well known fact that he's a parangon of virtue who wouldn't ever lie to try pass as the victim....

Idiot. Ben J and his coach admitted to doping. They didn't become victims because they said they took a different kind of dope.

Pretty sickening, eh wrote:

Shockingly, johnson's test was positive for a steroid that he didn't take. He admits to roids, but denies to this day that he had never taken what he came back positive for. Flo Jo and Jackie were basically men with wigs after their drug regimens.

I was just getting into track & field as a high school student in '83 & '84. I have been a huge fan ever since and the fact that Flo Jo got away with that crap sickens me to this day. It is absolute proof that people are getting away with PEDs and that cover ups exist. She was obviously told 'retire and we wont go public'. She quit just after setting WRs and forfeited huge amounts of appearance fee money. Nobody would have given that up if not forced to. Sports Illustrated had those great pictures that were taken 4 years apart but showed her running the curve of the 200m. The positioning of her body was identical, and 4 years later she was 30-40 pounds of muscle heavier, less body fat, squared forehead... shocking. Her results are more suspect than the Chinese middle distance/distance results that are largely ignored.

She alone makes me second guess every athlete to this day, yet I can't walk away from what should be the simplest/ purest of sports.

I believe in Conte's words.

Not only that. There were cover-ups in LA 1984. If you take samples for 84' and 88'. 90% of the sprinters and throwers were massively, insanely doped

The 100m champion in Seoul: Robson Caetano Da Silva from Brazil. I doubt about Calvin Smith,

With runners, I think that 50% of them were doped. Renato Canova says that Gelindo Bordin (Marathon Winner was 100% clean and his hematocrit level was 38% IIRC) was clean.

And one thinks that the explosion of doping in distance events was in the early 90's with EPO. Before that, it was blood doping (banned after 85', so in 1988 OG's probably there weren't so many dopers if you compare them with 84', or later, 92', 96 and especially Sydney 2000, without EPO testing methods available)

the6ixgod wrote:

Regardless...in the ESPN 30 for 30 about Ben Johnson et al. the USA testing team admitted to covering things up. Carl tested positive (though the substance is no longer banned) and then there are the test results that 'randomly' disappeared.

Is anyone really surprised? They were all dirty and they know it.

I'm well aware of that. So, no not exactly surprising, but not the same as what Conte in alleging.

Will any athletes volunteer for carbon isotope ratio testing for synthetic testosterone to give them some credibility as a clean athlete? I laugh when I read comments from athletes condemning dopers in all the recent reports when these same athletes can easily take synthetic testerone and not be caught. Conte and many others have been saying for years that micro-dosing with synthetic testosterone is rampant and as easy as taking candy from a baby to do and stay under the 4:1 T:E ratio.