Biggest doping story in years...Letsrun half-asleep

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Article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33749208

Documentary:

http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/Reportage-Dokumentation/Geheimsache-Doping-engl-Version/Das-Erste/Video?documentId=29857186&bcastId=799280

Those doctors have no idea what they are talking about... completely irresponsible to be quoted when athlete blood testing is not their specialty. Of course they don't understand what is "normal" and what is "abnormal" with the biggest physical freaks in the sporting world.

Such a sham.

A third of medals (146, including 55 golds) in endurance events at the Olympics and World Championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who have recorded suspicious tests.

Mo Farah is NOT in that group.

Leirbag wrote:

Those doctors have no idea what they are talking about... completely irresponsible to be quoted when athlete blood testing is not their specialty.

I'm glad that I could relieve you of your ignorance!

That story is just what they said a few months/year or so ago but more of it. And it's not anything people don't already know. EPO is old school, of course there will be people using it in less controlled areas. It also smells of IAAF politics, the way it seems to be pointing the finger at the Russians and away from Britain. The "leaked" blood tests showing a clean Farah in particular smell like Coe vs Bubka to me. It also smacks of the 70's and 80's when the west tried to paint the Warsaw Pact as doping central to deflect suspicion from their own filthy deeds. USA sprinting and jumping has always been the avant garde of dopers.

A far more important issue is, what are the new PED's. That's why the NOP thing is so interesting, they make no secret of trying to always be on the cutting edge of chemical enhancement. They and Sky cycling seem to have engineered the famine-victim dynamo, a way to starve athletes without inducing lethargy and ruining their fitness. It's not certain how they're doing it, but, legal or not, it's winning - Kiprop is the last big star Kenya's got left on the track, and they're on the verge of losing the steeple too.

What's worse - banned PED's that nobody's testing for, or new PED's that work even better and aren't banned? If anti-doping is ever going to catch up, the new PED's are top priority.

Bad Wigins wrote:A far more important issue is, what are the new PED's. That's why the NOP thing is so interesting, they make no secret of trying to always be on the cutting edge of chemical enhancement. They and Sky cycling seem to have engineered the famine-victim dynamo, a way to starve athletes without inducing lethargy and ruining their fitness. It's not certain how they're doing it, but, legal or not, it's winning - Kiprop is the last big star Kenya's got left on the track, and they're on the verge of losing the steeple too.

Shouldn't this be picked up by the passport? Or is this hack different to those the passport covers?

Evian Mars wrote:

A third of medals (146, including 55 golds) in endurance events at the Olympics and World Championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who have recorded suspicious tests.

Mo Farah is NOT in that group.

Neither is Bolt.

That's the most suspicious of it all.

...when the west tried to paint the Warsaw Pact as doping central...

The Warsaw Pact *was* the doping central. As a German middle-distance runner said after the German reunification: "We were eager to learn their training secrets, but all they had were blue pills."

And the system in Russia nowadays is East Germany 2.0 - the documentary shows a newspaper interview with Svetlana Zhurova, in which she tells that RUSADA helps doping athletes to avoid being detected at international meetings.

too big to fail wrote:

Neither is Bolt.

That's the most suspicious of it all.

No matter how doped Bolt gets, he'll never fail a test. There is way too much money in having him on TV.

it's not a real scandal until names are named and medals taken away

now it's just shadows and fog

You haven't watched this documentary have you?

It's 500% more info that has been known and made public before. Some of the topics were known or speculated on -- but this investigative reporter has Documents, and Film of EPO injections in Iten, and interviews with former athletes revealing how the system has been working or worked, step, by step, by step.

This is like nothing written, seen, or shown before on track and field.

If the right things happen, the IAAF, and Athletics Kenya will be going down or have their houses completely cleaned, and RUSADA.

too big to fail wrote:

Evian Mars wrote:

A third of medals (146, including 55 golds) in endurance events at the Olympics and World Championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who have recorded suspicious tests.

Mo Farah is NOT in that group.

Neither is Bolt.

That's the most suspicious of it all.

I saw nothing on the name blurred out images list to exclude Bolt or Farah, or ANYONE from that list.

And, who knows what the reporter may receive now that this docu has been shown?

Or if he has a part 2., underway.

Someone needs to leak those docs and make all the blood levels tranparent public knowledge.

Clearly the IAAF has selectively covered things up.