5k and 10k times for Ivy League scholarship

you, sir, are a complete idiot.

Ivy League Universities do not give athletic scholarships.

After some thought (about 30secs worth), I've decided to go with 3/10 on this one, primarily because it left that vital bit of doubt about whether it's truly trollage or not.

The Ivy League (D1 athletic conference) schools do not offer athletic scholarships (similar to D3). Talk to coaches about going through the recruitment process so that you can visit campus and meet current people on the team and be able to walk-on when admitted (with your HS times). Talk to admissions and financial aid people about what financial aid you qualify for (that will not include an athletic scholarship).

Carl Spackler wrote:

The Ivy League (D1 athletic conference) schools do not offer athletic scholarships (similar to D3). Talk to coaches about going through the recruitment process so that you can visit campus and meet current people on the team and be able to walk-on when admitted (with your HS times). Talk to admissions and financial aid people about what financial aid you qualify for (that will not include an athletic scholarship).

True. There is, however, a recruiting process where a coach, with admissions office approval, can offer a recruited athlete a "likely letter" in the fall (months ahead of normal acceptance) that means you're in unless you really screw up. That recruiting happens in the summer and early fall before senior year, so if you're going to be a senior, initiate contact now if they haven't contacted you. If you're younger than that, maybe fill out a "recruit" form on their website to get the relationship going.

Ivy league schools offer very generous financial aid and athletic scholarships at scholarship-giving schools are few and usually broken into pieces, so you may come out better at an Ivy even thought you don't get an official athletic scholarship.

Even if you're not recruited and don't get a likely letter, you may be welcome to walk on if you get in through the usual application process.

Ignore the person who called you an idiot. Your question is legit.

Peruse the Ivy track teams' websites for announcements of their recruiting classes. Not all those will be likely-letter recruits. Or check directathletics for the high school times of the runners on the team now. That will give you an idea of what times are expected.

I'm pretty sure this is a troll, but here is what I've seen. In high school a friend of mine was a Footlocker finalist, had a 4:08 mile, and about a 2.8 gpa. He was recruited by Columbia but ended up at a state school that was top 20 at nationals. Another friend ran a 4:18 and 1:53 and had a 4.0 gpa but only got an email reply from them.

They give you aid based on financial need.

My income is $75,000.00, my son would have paid less than $3000.00 per year to go to Cornell.

I'm going to assume you're like a frosh or soph thinking long term plans and not someone going into his sr year of hs. Ivy schools love bragging about how they don't give athletic scholarships. You'd probably hear it at some point in a tour of the campus. Look at the times the freshmen at these schools run. If you can run similar times, or just a shade slower, you should be a good candidate to walk on.

I know Penn and Harvard have a PDF of their recruiting and walk-on standards on their athletics website.

The schools offer financial aid, but it is not tied in to athletic performance or preference by the coach. It would be the same deal for a non-athlete. It's usually based more on need, FAFSA, and what loans you may qualify for. I think some schools are "need-blind" but I'm not sure which ones. For more details, check out the schools' financial aid pages.

Thanks all for the great advice! Yes, I am new to the whole recruiting process and would just like to plan ahead. I would like to get in for 10k, so I looked at some of the Ivy league freshmen, and they run around 8.20-8.30 for the 3,000. I would equate that to 30-32 minutes for 10k, so I'll aim for that.

If you have any other tips, please feel free to share. Thanks again!