Forget the doping accusations - Rupp's 2015 has been a flop ON THE TRACK. Are his best years behind him?

Furthermore, he seems to realize this is true, as seen by his laughably sparse racing schedule. Why isn't he racing in Europe like the rest of his NOP teammates? Hell, even Cain is willing to race when she's in a slump ... but precious Rupp can't handle it? C'mon, you're a pro runner, your job is to RACE.

Perhaps his poor results are due to his thyroid condition? I read something

about on the net.

He also said he wanted to be around his babies this year instead of traveling all over the world all year. Hard to say but I figure he'll at least stick with the 10k through 2016/17 and then maybe go to half marathon/marathon. The guy is going to pull $250,000 appearance fee for his first marathon regardless of what he runs. He shouldn't have a problem running the AR for the half either.

In all seriousness: being a parent, particularly an involved parent (which I'd bet Galen is), can really change things...particularly on the recovery end of training.

He has been MIA for much of the season and most of his results have been subpar, but his 10k at USAs was as good as we've seen him in a while. I wouldn't count him out in Beijing.

I always found it interesting that 2 guys coached by the same individual racing in the same events on the world stage take totally different paths to those championships. Not just this year but over the history of Mo and Rupp working together they have had very different racing schedules.

Mo will run a number of races of the DL series as well as a few indoor meets while Rupp will run a few indoor meets when healthy but runs far fewer outdoor races than Mo. Mo even will run an odd road race or xc race each year while Rupp does not.

Just saying I find it interesting how different the approach is for both being coached by the same man

Believe it or not Rupp is the only threat to Mo in Beijing

You start this flop thread right after ...... no race?

Not a bad race, but no race.

If US 10 champ plus making the 5 team is considered a flop, then he must be pretty great in your eyes for that to be disappointing.

If he has been doing nothing but strength training and is waiting for August to taper then it's a bit early to call thi season a bust.

Are you the same person that posted Nick Willis is no longer in sub 3:30 shape right before He ran 3:29 the other day?

His indoor season was his worst in ages -- an unqualified flop. Aside from winning the 10,000 at USAs, which was admittedly impressive, his outdoor season has been:

-Scratch at Payton Jordan

-Third at the Pre Classic 5000 with a 13:11

-DNS at Portland Track Festival

-third at USATF 5000

Meanwhile, while all of his teammates race in Europe, he's nowhere to be found.

This has clearly been a bad season for him. And you're on drugs if you think he has ANY CHANCE to beat Mo at Worlds.

lease wrote:

In all seriousness: being a parent, particularly an involved parent (which I'd bet Galen is), can really change things...particularly on the recovery end of training.

I think Mo Farah was raising two young kids during his WC and Olympic yrs and it didn't seem to hurt his training and racing. No excuses for Rupp.

Or maybe he has the money in the bank and wants to spend time doing some hard training near his FAMILY. Either way he's getting paid. Wait and watch for World's when he gets a Silver in the 10k and bronze in the 5k. If that's a flop then you're a speck of dust.

Mo is a parent too wrote:

I think Mo Farah was raising two young kids during his WC and Olympic yrs and it didn't seem to hurt his training and racing. No excuses for Rupp.

Cat's in the Cradle by Harry Chapin

My child arrived just the other day,

He came to the world in the usual way,

But there were planes to catch and bills to pay,

He learned to walk while I was away

And he was talking 'fore I knew it and as he grew

He'd say I'm gonna be like you, Dad

You know I'm gonna be like you

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon

Little boy blue and the man on the moon

When you coming home dad, I don't know when,

But we'll get together then

You know we'll have a good time then

...

Mo is a parent too wrote:

I think Mo Farah was raising two young kids during his WC and Olympic yrs and it didn't seem to hurt his training and racing. No excuses for Rupp.

Mo spends 6+ months a year in Kenya away from his kids.

A year ago I would have laughed at this. I still think the Marathon is off through the 2016 Olympics. But I do wonder about his speed. That said, I chalk it up to the virus he had early in the season that ended his indoor season. My guess is that his training schedule for the year was thrown off kilter and he hasn't gotten round to the speed work. He looked very strong. Heck, Rojos even suggested Rupp was doping to pull off such a great performance in the 10000M. But if Rupp doesn't show us some serious speed by the end of this season, I'm just going to start assuming he is old and the speed from 2012 is no longer there. I would then say he should stick to the track but only focus on the 10000M for 2016. Then, afterwards, yeah, maybe step up to the marathon.

anacondarunner wrote:

His indoor campaign featured a subpar 2 mile and that's it. The outdoor season has been nothing special so far, and his vaunted kick was nowhere to be found in the 5000 at USAs. Is it time to admit that he peaked from 2012-2014 and it's time to move up to the marathon? He'll never win gold in the 5/10k anyway as long as Farah is competing.

That Jesse SNFLP Cliff Clavin guy knew this several years ago. He was truly clairvoyant.

lease wrote:

In all seriousness: being a parent, particularly an involved parent (which I'd bet Galen is).

Well, it's not like he has anything else to do with his time.

Rupp doesn't have the b@lls to go train in Kenya with Mo, and isn't exactly penning a novel in his spare time, either.

Does his wife work outside of the house?

anacondarunner wrote:

His indoor campaign featured a subpar 2 mile and that's it. The outdoor season has been nothing special so far, and his vaunted kick was nowhere to be found in the 5000 at USAs. Is it time to admit that he peaked from 2012-2014 and it's time to move up to the marathon? He'll never win gold in the 5/10k anyway as long as Farah is competing.

The thing is we cant forget the doping because no doubt that is part of the problem. Everywhere he is going he is facing acusations, and unfortunately for Galen, running well is a "bad" thing in this case. Especially in the 10k if he runs a great time. My guess is that Galen isn't very healthy this year with the thyroid issue and they want to avoid using TUE's because of what's going on. He won the 10k as USA's without breaking a sweat, and then he barely got outkicked by a bunch of fresh guys in the 5k. The 5k isn't his best event and I'm guessing the goal there was just to make the team or else he would have made a move sooner.

As far as racing in Europe, if he wants to avoid using TUE's then he probably won't be racing if the thyroid is causing a problem. Plus, he's got the standard, qualified for worlds, and got twins at home! Why not enjoy the summer and focus on parenting and worlds?

He missed indoors, He had a decent 5000 at Pre and made the teams I. The 5 and 10. True came over to Europe to get the 5 standard and said he felt like a zombie. Maybe Galen feels the same and wants to trim instead of race,

Thyroid meds aren't banned and don't require a TUE... You're entire post is D.U.M.B.