The rise of FROOME: sound familar, Galen?

maybe the worms had a performance-enhancing effect

Yeah, but there have been great runners who did have actual illnesses. Filbert Bayi suffered from malaria and Billy Konchellah missed a few years due to tuberculosis then came back and won a second World 800m gold. There are undoubtedly others.

Everybody knows Team Sky are probably the biggest dopers in the sport right now. Would love it if Froome and Wiggins get found out and what Brailsford would have to say

Cuban wrote:

Everybody knows Team Sky are probably the biggest dopers in the sport right now. Would love it if Froome and Wiggins get found out and what Brailsford would have to say

More than Astana? A good joke from you. Read up first.

Those blood illnesses make the system overcompensate to try to keep up with the deficit. The blood cells are younger and better at transporting oxygen.

Bill Harzia wrote:

Those blood illnesses make the system overcompensate to try to keep up with the deficit. The blood cells are younger and better at transporting oxygen.

This almost sounded plausible despite making absolutely no sense.

Nice.

And Haile and Paula have asthma. There are other stories of athletes beating cancer, etc. Not everything should be tied to a theory about Galen Rupp.

I hear you, but... wrote:

Yeah, but there have been great runners who did have actual illnesses. Filbert Bayi suffered from malaria and Billy Konchellah missed a few years due to tuberculosis then came back and won a second World 800m gold. There are undoubtedly others.

Roelants wrote:

And Haile and Paula have asthma. There are other stories of athletes beating cancer, etc. Not everything should be tied to a theory about Galen Rupp.

I hear you, but... wrote:

Yeah, but there have been great runners who did have actual illnesses. Filbert Bayi suffered from malaria and Billy Konchellah missed a few years due to tuberculosis then came back and won a second World 800m gold. There are undoubtedly others.

How does it apply to Rupp? Yes, the prednisone and lots of doctors applies to Rupp but getting intestinal worms is far from the same as Rupp.

The cyclist is probably dirty but his story seems more plausible to me. If you really had some tropical illness for years, it would drastically hurt your performance just as if you were getting microdoes of androgel for years it would drastically help your performance.

Didn't Merber get a big piece of glass through his foot, such that he had to fly to Europe for blood platelet therapy? I believe that was a year or two before his breakout 1500m record at Columbia.

good doctor wrote:

Bill Harzia wrote:

Those blood illnesses make the system overcompensate to try to keep up with the deficit. The blood cells are younger and better at transporting oxygen.

This almost sounded plausible despite making absolutely no sense.

Nice.

That's because you're not a doctor. It makes perfect sense that living in an environment rife with untreated parasites that the body HAS to come up with ways of compensating.

Think of the healthiest looking wild animal you ever saw and realize that it is coping with several parasites.

Your Welcome.

"Your Welcome."

- Dude, that's a complete fail.

Hamza is a cheater wrote:

"Your Welcome."

- Dude, that's a complete fail.

Not on my part.

This would be very odd, but he's from Kenya, and so would have been exposed many times to Bilharzia. In Malawi, fairly nearby, all volunteers were tested with a new test back in 1992 or 1993 and more than 50% tested positive. Just one swim in the lake could do it. It can be debilitating. A volunteer from another country at the time was paralyzed when it went into her spine. Typhoid is also endemic to East Africa and we all had to have the very painful vaccine for it. I wouldn't be surprised if he's also had malaria a few times. I had something very much like it when I was travelling in Zanzibar and Pemba, recurrent high fevers, etc., though my blood slide back in Malawi tested negative for it (I was on Mefloquine).

Same bodyfat burning stuff that rupp/farah are on

clear as day

When I was at school there were 2 kids at the back on xc runs

One was fat the other had asthma. Now the ones with asthma seem to be setting world records

I also suspect some of these runners had asthma as child, have now grown out of it but are still taking the meds

I agree with you about the asthma. I had this as a child for a few years and had to go to the emergency room while we were living in London for part of a year. They had me in an oxygen tent. In the following years, until I grew out of it, I'd wheeze badly when I was ill, so it wasn't exercise-induced. There were no medications at the time given to me like the current regimen and certainly I never took any medicine chronically like these characters. I wouldn't say that I was ever close to the back of the crowd in school but I still think that it might explain why I never got anywhere relative to my training. Why are the best said to be asthmatics? Well, for one thing, there is no single test that would demonstrate some real underlying condition. There's just breathing problems. And you can induce gasping for air pretty easily for a test.

I am sorry, but Froome has absolute stick legs and pushed out MASSIVE watts. He grew up riding with a bunch of africans on mountain bikes. Why aren't they all pro riders too?

You could say the Rupp took drugs and could recover faster and put in more work, sure . . . but at least his body type is built for distance running.

But Froome is putting out massive wattage after a week of riding epic stages with those things called legs. Anorexic Froome and Wigins are some of the top TTers? Give me a break.

Another physiological anomaly: Froome claims his max heart rate is 170.

When Wiggins won the 2011 National 10-mile title he said his average power output was 476 watts, which because 10s are ridden at slightly above threshold meant his threshold then would have been around 460 watts.

PROOF:

http://www.veloveritas.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/14/its-easy-to-join-the-black-list/Bradley-Wiggins-Skinny.jpg