Any guesses???
Any guesses???
Maybe it's that it just that one of them took EPO and the other two are just taking random drug supplements and that there is no causation whatsoever.
You mean what do their wives have in common? Didn't you take freshman biology at the high school level?
Having twins is dependent upon the female. If she releases more than 1 egg, every load a guy blows has millions and millions of sperm. Has nothing to do with the guy.
Fertility treatment, obviously.
Haha wrote:
You mean what do their wives have in common? Didn't you take freshman biology at the high school level?
Having twins is dependent upon the female. If she releases more than 1 egg, every load a guy blows has millions and millions of sperm. Has nothing to do with the guy.
This.
Fraternal twins are completely dependent on the mother. Identical twins happen after conception. Either way, it has nothing to do with the guy.
Armstrong had one of his twins removed
It's not really surprising. Fertility issues are common among endurance athletes, so fertility treatments are common as well. Twins are a common result of fertility treatments. QED.
themanontherun wrote:
It's not really surprising. Fertility issues are common among endurance athletes, so fertility treatments are common as well. Twins are a common result of fertility treatments. QED.
About to say the same thing.
themanontherun wrote:
It's not really surprising. Fertility issues are common among endurance athletes,
Hmm. If that were true and it wasn't doping, you'd see much higher rates of fertility treatments.
Elites Doping FTW. The rules permit it.
trick question: twins
I will preface this by saying I don't believe this, but lets take a trip down the rabbit's hole to see where it leads. I am a father of identical twins (odds are 3 in 1000), which nobody really knows the root cause. I just tell people we had sex twice in the same night. Fraternal twins is due to the mother releasing multiple eggs (a process known as hyperovulation). This process naturally occurs at a rate of about 1 in 80, but has increased to a rate of 1 in 30 due to the widespread use of fertility drugs and IVF. Certain tribes in Africa have a natural rate of 1 in 30, while Asian cultures have the lowest occurence of twins (on the order of 1 in 150). The commonly held belief is that diet and environmental factors are the main factors in this difference. Hormones are powerful things and small changes can have profound effects on a person. Hypothetically, it would be possible for a doped athlete to cause second hand exposure of these hormones either through shared saliva, bodily fluids, or in the instance of the steroid creams just casual contact. Similar transmissions have been found in pets of women who were using hormone creams to cope with menopause:
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/25/when-hormone-creams-expose-others-to-risks/?_r=0
So, it is possible that the original posters postulate is not without merit. I would not think that exposure to testosterone or episterone would increase fertility, but who knows. Technically, Lance wasn't supposed to be able to have kids, but strange things happen.
Low sperm count so had to do IVF. Doctors like to do multiple fertilizations to increase chances of conception. Lots of twins result.
Interesting article (albeit it admits it is under debate) on the impact of testosterone on female fertility:
Perhaps twins are the smoking gun when it comes to todays doping regimen, just as adult braces were the smoking gun back in the 80s and 90s.
joedirt wrote:
I will preface this by saying I don't believe this, but lets take a trip down the rabbit's hole to see where it leads. I am a father of identical twins (odds are 3 in 1000), which nobody really knows the root cause..
Is the discussion is a MUCH higher incidence of twins among elite athletes? Or, your "normal" population.
Other athletes with twins:
Roger Federer - two sets
Muhammad Ali
Peyton Manning
Chuck Norris
(It's pretty crazy that the best in Tennis, the best in Cycling, two of the best distance runners, one of the greatest football players of all time and the immortal Chuck Norris all fall on this list)
Other Celbrities with twins that show signs of roid rage:
Al Pacino
Robert DeNiro
Mel Gibson
Charlie Sheen
Chris Hemsworth
Brad Pitt
George Bush
joedirt wrote:
Other athletes with twins:
Roger Federer - two sets
Muhammad Ali
Peyton Manning
Chuck Norris
(It's pretty crazy that the best in Tennis, the best in Cycling, two of the best distance runners, one of the greatest football players of all time and the immortal Chuck Norris all fall on this list)
Other Celbrities with twins that show signs of roid rage:
Al Pacino
Robert DeNiro
Mel Gibson
Charlie Sheen
Chris Hemsworth
Brad Pitt
George Bush
Not to forget PaJo Johnson.
Haha wrote:
You mean what do their wives have in common? Didn't you take freshman biology at the high school level?
Having twins is dependent upon the female. If she releases more than 1 egg, every load a guy blows has millions and millions of sperm. Has nothing to do with the guy.
Bingo
This is the third time that I've seen you start a thread on this. I responded to the first one pointing out that it's fully dependent on the woman. Quit starting multiple threads on this, trolling for the answer that you want to hear! I used to think that only certain women were drama queens who loved to whip things into a frenzy (and I'm a woman), but this message board shows that men LOVE to gossip and sling sh*t as well.
Observer of things wrote:
Any guesses???
Ha Ha, Tony the Tiger and Karma Police,
A doped male athlete could theoretically expose his partner to testosterone through shared fluids, or in the case of steroid creams, through casual contact (see the New York Times article referenced earlier). A female would not have to have direct exposure to the steroid in this scenario. Testosterone and hormones in general are very powerful and it doesn't take a lot for it to have an impact, especially on a female who naturally has 1/7th the amount of testosterone as a male. Similar second hand exposures to chemicals take place in all walks of life from chemo therapy drugs to asbestos workers. Perhaps you geniuses haven't considered all of the variables.
jo twins wrote:
Not to forget PaJo Johnson.
The Brojos are identical. No fertility treatments for PaJo.