Could a High School All Star DMR beat Oregon now?

Of course.

Very easily

is this even a question?

Let's try current students:

Fisher

Norman

Those two guys to break 1:48

Maton

Hunter

1200 Alexander went thru 1200 in 2:54 2 days ago EN ROUTE to his 3:36 1500. He could run under 2:50 for a straight out 1200. No HS kid can do that. Not even close. 3:36 converts to a 3:53 mile. HS kid gets smoked. Alexander was a USA 1500 finalist. Oregon already has a sizeable lead. End of story.

400 Marcus Chambers USA 400 finalist. Ran 44.95 in heats. Sorry but UO still has a sizeable lead.

800 Nikki Franzmair ran a 1:46 on their NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP indoor DMR. Now an even bigger lead.

Mile Winn at 3:37 (3:54 mile conversion), Chez 3:37 (3:54 mile conversion), Gregorek 3:57 mile, Geohegan 3:57 mile, etc, etc, etc

Oregon wins over the best All-Star team you can muster by AT LEAST a straightaway. Prob more like 150 yards. Already spikes off, warmed down and eating dinner by the time Fisher finds his way to the finish line.

The above post was compared to an All-Star team from today's best HS runners. Versus the All-Time record holders it would be much closer and much more interesting.

If Ryun leads off and he's in 3:55 shape, Alexander in 3:53 shape has a 1.5 sec lead over 1200.

For 400 Chambers lengthens it slightly by a few more tenths because with a running start he goes faster than his 44.95 open. Two second lead.

Nikki at 1:46 keeps the 3 sec lead and adds a few more tenths. Lead now 2.5 seconds.

Webb needs to make up 2.5 vs Winn or King Chez. If they run their 1500 mile conversions, Webb doesn't make up anything. UO wins by 2.5.

Good race!

Above should say "Nikki runs 1:46 and keeps the TWO sec lead".

These questions keep getting DMR and DMR

Fantasy wrote:

1200 Alexander went thru 1200 in 2:54 2 days ago EN ROUTE to his 3:36 1500. He could run under 2:50 for a straight out 1200. No HS kid can do that. Not even close. 3:36 converts to a 3:53 mile. HS kid gets smoked. Alexander was a USA 1500 finalist. Oregon already has a sizeable lead. End of story.

400 Marcus Chambers USA 400 finalist. Ran 44.95 in heats. Sorry but UO still has a sizeable lead.

800 Nikki Franzmair ran a 1:46 on their NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP indoor DMR. Now an even bigger lead.

Mile Winn at 3:37 (3:54 mile conversion), Chez 3:37 (3:54 mile conversion), Gregorek 3:57 mile, Geohegan 3:57 mile, etc, etc, etc

Oregon wins over the best All-Star team you can muster by AT LEAST a straightaway. Prob more like 150 yards. Already spikes off, warmed down and eating dinner by the time Fisher finds his way to the finish line.

I doubt a high school team of today's top prep runners could beat the Oregon DMR team--there'd just be too much distance lost over the 12 and 16--but I do think that an all-time best high school team would make for a good race.

I think you're really underestimating the all-time high school all star team in the 400 and 800--which offers the valuable seconds they'd need for Webb to beat Ches in the 16.

Granville's 800 PR was 1:46.45--slightly faster than Franzmair's current 800 PR (1:46.78 I think?). Robinson ran 44.69 in the 400 in high school, slightly ahead of Chambers's PR, although if we're unwilling to count that and go with Moore's 45.14, you're losing ~.2 seconds.

I'd also count on Webb vs Ches to be a tossup--Webb's 3:53 to Ches's 3:54 or so.

I also think that Ryun would be able to hold onto Alexander. Assuming you take Ryun's high school PRs for the mile and 800 (3:55 and ~1:47?) and plug them into the pretty commonly accepted 1200 predictor ( [(mile/4) + (800/2)]/2 = 1200m 1 lap pace ) you get around 2:48.

I think you could make a very good argument that the high school all-time team would be faster on paper than the UO DMR team. In an actual race the UO team might have the upper hand, depending on how the race worked out (who ended up in front, whether it was fast or slow, etc) but purely off the numbers, it's not a blowout by any means.