Product used by Rupp and Salazar created by BALCO founder Victor Conte

Could be strange, but if rupp was using something illegal from balco then I don't think Salazar would've included it in the report. If I remember correctly, wasn't conte selling several completely legal supplements and then running a backdoor PED lab with top elite athletes?

exthrower wrote:

Testosterone boosters are hoaxes...The only thing they boost is your debt.

This^^^^

Back when baseball home run records were going down, Mark McGuire claimed his power came from supplements. This was a front for the real source which was steroids. These supplements don't raise testosterone.

Have you ever taken ZMA? It will give you morning wood better than you had in years. I take it every night before bed and the vivid dreams I get and increase sexual boost is real.

Try it out.. Been taking it for almost 2 years and if I get lazy and miss a week or two I can tell a huge difference once I start taking it again. Also helps me fall asleep faster with the magnesium in it that helps relax the body.

Pablo Neruda wrote:

The product Alberto admitted to having Galen use, claiming to 'naturally increasing testosterone' called ZMA in his rebuttal is created by none other than Victor Conte.

Victor Conte even advertises the product on his twitter page

https://twitter.com/VictorConte

"Galen does not recall exactly which supplement he took in 2002. It could have been Testoboost, Alpha Male, Tribex or ZMA. All are legal supplements that make essentially the same claims.

http://nikeoregonproject.com/blogs/news/35522561-alberto-open-letter-part-1

Strange to anyone? why would you seek out the products of a convicted drug criminal, who manufactures designer performance-enhancing drugs?

Salazar was one of Victor Conte's original customers back in the mid 80s. Remember he was sending Conte his urine for testing back then. Salazar said that "everyone was doing it."

Conte was convicted for his role at BALCO in 2005. How does 2005 figure in your timeline?

Zinc, Magnesium, and B6. Nothing illegal there, just three things plenty of runners and endurance athletes are usually deficient in.

ZMA is not a patented formula, other manufacturers can produce supplements based on the original ZMA formula.

"Possibly the most well-known testosterone booster, ZMA, combines three natural vitamins and minerals into one capsule."

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/topicoftheweek98.htm

The ZMA group also had 30 percent increases in testosterone levels (compared to 10 percent in the placebo group).

http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/supplements/supplement-guide-zma

Salazar says the anti-doping ­culture is so ingrained at the Nike Oregon Project that his athletes are barred from taking sports supplements in case they contain banned substances. “We don’t take that much stuff and everything that Mo takes is from UK Athletics,” he said. “None of our athletes are on any sports-specific supplement other than beta alanine, which is an amino acid. Other than that, it’s iron, vitamin D and that’s it. You don’t really need anything else.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/10253393/Alberto-Salazar-takes-a-swipe-at-rumour-mongers-who-put-Mo-Farahs-sudden-run-of-success-down-to-doping.html

After reading about this whole ordeal, I went and read about testosterone boosters such as testoboost. There are a lot of skeptics that claim that there is no real reason to take them. Some of the critics essentially call them fat burners. Watch some youtube vids etc. I find it hard to believe someone as knowledgeable as Salazar would have his athletes taking testoboost. It seems worthless when you read up on it and check reviews.

Take real testosterone. Use testoboost. Blame failed tests on testoboost.