Centro,Blankenship Merber = the current Worlds 1500 team

complex math wrote:

The only ones in the 45 field size with times under the current cutoff

Jager and Leslie competed in the steeple At US & in the possible mix

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Heath did not compete in Nats did he- If I mis remembered and he did he could be in the mix but since none of them ran the q500 and the USA Guidelines say self select It is Merber Blankenship and Centrowitz

No Manzano 3 :38.76 and Andrews 3:38.75 are insice the current bubble and unless the list changes a lot the will go.

complex math wrote:

The only ones in the 45 field size with times under the current cutoff

Jager competed & in the possible mix

You are not correct.

IAAF Selection Criteria is explained here:

5. In some events, the IAAF may invite athletes based on the IAAF ranking lists in order to reach the target number of competitors for each event as listed by the IAAF for the 2015 IAAF World Championships. USATF shall accept any invitations extended to U.S. athletes if such acceptance does not displace an athlete who has finished ahead of the invited athlete(s) at the Trials and who has met the qualifying standard or who is also in a position to receive an IAAF invitation. In the event that one or more of the top three placers in the Trials has not met the qualifying standard but has a performance that appears to be good enough to warrant an invitation based on the ranking list and number of known qualifiers, USATF may solicit an invitation from the IAAF for that athlete(s) notwithstanding that other U.S. athletes have met the qualifying standard. The intent is that, to the extent possible, the order of finish at the U. S. Championships shall determine whether an athlete competes in the World Championships. There will be no invitations through the use of the ranking lists in the 5,000m, 10,000m, race walk and marathon.

Please read this as we explain it more:

We just updated it. Weldon keeps talking to people in Eugene who tell him one thing but I'm going by the people I talk to and the USATF selection criteria on its website.

Now go here and see where Andrews and Manzano stand:

Leo's 3:38.04 would be 33rd fastest (need to remove the 2 Americans aahead of him). in the world when you remove the duplicates. Plus there are probalby 5-10 more timess you need to remove from the Morocco meet that wans't 1500 meters.

He's safe.

Andrews' 3:38.75 would place him 37th right now assuming everyone above him goes and assuming you don't remove the moroccan times (or add in indoor times). Plus we all know Canada never sends everyone, etc.

I would imagine that would work as well even if he doesn't run faster - which he will.

wineturtle wrote:

No Manzano 3 :38.76 and Andrews 3:38.75 are inside the current bubble and unless the list changes a lot they will go.

The sit 40 and 41 of the field size of 45 once the IAAF edit Merber and Blankenship out.

I'm assuming IAAF will actually use a list of times from the athletes that the National bodies offer as team members.

Thanks Robert

your explanation is very good.

The whole problem with this is it ruins the season, nobody wants to do anything or run fast until right before the WC.

In popular sports, you play however many games a season and each of them counts equally. In track, everything means pretty much nothing except the champs in which nobody runs fast. Boring.

It would be better for USATF to just set a qualifying window of 2 or 3 months and pick the top 3 performers.

Maybe they would be less likely to win, but I don't care. I am always 1000 times more impressed by someone who goes fast than someone who merely survives rounds.

Your English is horrible, OP. How is anyone supposed to understand what you mean when you write like that?

wineturtle wrote:

No Manzano 3 :38.76 and Andrews 3:38.75 are insice the current bubble and unless the list changes a lot the will go.

Same with this guy. This is the most unintelligible thread I have ever seen. Was everyone drunk?

Drunken poster wrote:

This is the most unintelligible thread I have ever seen. Was everyone drunk?

You know it's bad when rojo is the intelligible one!

Check with Erik I may be right!

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6592534&page=1

If Andrews & Manzano don't get the IAAF standard between now and Aug --unlikely as it may be- I am Right

complex math wrote:

Check with Guru Gault.. I may be right!

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6592534&page=1

If Andrews & Manzano don't get the IAAF standard between now and Aug --unlikely as it may be- I am Right

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Robby Andrews got a Beijing Q by winning Portland in 3:35.82.

thus the 1500 has two assured – Matthew Centrowitz, Robby Andrews, with Leonel Manzano needing Q and Ben Blankenship having one with Merber out of the picture in any scenario

wineturtle wrote:

Robby Andrews got a Beijing Q by winning Portland in 3:35.82.

thus the 1500 has two assured – Matthew Centrowitz, Robby Andrews, with Leonel Manzano needing Q and Ben Blankenship having one with Merber out of the picture in any scenario

I TOTALLY DISAGREE. I don't care what someone may have told people at USAs. there is no way Manzano doesn't get nominated by USATF even if he doesn't faster. Are they really not going to nominate the Olympis silver medallist when he has a time fast enough to get him an invite so they can take Kyle Merber?

They've done some braind dead things over the years but they can't be that stupid.

No, they'll nominate Blankenship. Our nomination procedure is pretty clear. Order of finish at USATF from those who have the standard.

It's only hard because the USATF people write one thing and, apparently, are saying something different. I think that people who don't have the "A" are unlikely to make the final at World's. Why should we send people who are just going to show up? Just consider the "A"s, and rank them according to their finish at USAs.

Why would Manzano NOT get the standard? It is 3:36, not 3:32. He has run as consistently as ever this season. Hard to believe that he won't be able to go to Europe and knock it out.

rojo wrote:

wineturtle wrote:

Robby Andrews got a Beijing Q by winning Portland in 3:35.82.

thus the 1500 has two assured – Matthew Centrowitz, Robby Andrews, with Leonel Manzano needing Q and Ben Blankenship having one with Merber out of the picture in any scenario

I TOTALLY DISAGREE. I don't care what someone may have told people at USAs. there is no way Manzano doesn't get nominated by USATF even if he doesn't faster. Are they really not going to nominate the Olympis silver medallist when he has a time fast enough to get him an invite so they can take Kyle Merber?

They've done some braind dead things over the years but they can't be that stupid. YES THEY CAN!!!!

Merber and those not named Manzano or Blankenship are out of the picture (unless they goes to and win the wild card at NACAC Champs in Costa Rica Aug 78&9 Aug.)

rojo wrote:

wineturtle wrote:

Robby Andrews got a Beijing Q by winning Portland in 3:35.82.

thus the 1500 has two assured – Matthew Centrowitz, Robby Andrews, with Leonel Manzano needing Q and Ben Blankenship having one with Merber out of the picture in any scenario

I TOTALLY DISAGREE. I don't care what someone may have told people at USAs. there is no way Manzano doesn't get nominated by USATF even if he doesn't faster. Are they really not going to nominate the Olympis silver medallist when he has a time fast enough to get him an invite so they can take Kyle Merber?

They've done some braind dead things over the years but they can't be that stupid. YES THEY CAN!!!!

Merber and those not named Manzano or Blankenship are out of the picture (unless they goes to and win the wild card at NACAC Champs in Costa Rica Aug 78&9 Aug.)

wineturtle wrote:

rojo wrote:

I TOTALLY DISAGREE. I don't care what someone may have told people at USAs. there is no way Manzano doesn't get nominated by USATF even if he doesn't faster. Are they really not going to nominate the Olympis silver medallist when he has a time fast enough to get him an invite so they can take Kyle Merber?

They've done some braind dead things over the years but they can't be that stupid. YES THEY CAN!!!!

Merber and those not named Manzano or Blankenship are out of the picture (unless they goes to and win the wild card at NACAC Champs in Costa Rica Aug 78&9 Aug.)

Merbers running panams, which are in late july I believe, I don't see why he wouldn't run NACACs and try to get a spot, I don't know how fierce the competition would be there, he could probably win