Duane Solomon Going to Take 800m Final to Place only Nick Symmonds Can Go, Plans On Being at WR Pace at 600

he wasn't coasting. he was rigging after his 50.x first 400. nobody who feels fine at 750 just shuts it down with guys nearby to "save" himself for the final and then watches others go by.

this isn't 2012 when he was in 1:42 shape. if he goes out sub 50, my money is that he is coming back 56+. lox and nick the dick will beat him running like that but he very well might make the team with a 49/56. this isn't exactly murder's row in the 800 final.

Soloman has the tendency to hype up his races and then massively disappoint so I'm not expecting anything different.

Maybe he was channeling The Staple Singers ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=772YR4_rOBU

bagel and lox wrote:

he wasn't coasting. he was rigging after his 50.x first 400. nobody who feels fine at 750 just shuts it down with guys nearby to "save" himself for the final and then watches others go by.

this isn't 2012 when he was in 1:42 shape. if he goes out sub 50, my money is that he is coming back 56+. lox and nick the dick will beat him running like that but he very well might make the team with a 49/56. this isn't exactly murder's row in the 800 final.

Dude, you are blind. Solomon shut it down. He ain't in 2012 shape but he didn't rig either. He will make the team, might even win, but he won't make it with a 49/56 unless it's 110 degrees.

Solomons gonna take down rudisha's record tomorrow, just you watch.

Solo-man wrote:

Solomons gonna take down rudisha's record tomorrow, just you watch.

Post of the day!!!!

The Last Strawman wrote:

"Duane Solomon Going to Take 800m Final to Place only Nick Symmonds Can Go, Plans On Being at WR Pace at 600"

It's been a while since I took English. What the hell does this even mean?

It means you need to take English.

Solomon's tactics are exactly the same as his coach, Johnny "Burn Em Out in the first 400" Gray. It worked for Johnny about 50% of the time and he occasionally ran really fast. Solomon's percentage is a little worse. For me, that would be an unacceptable percentage. For these guys it is confirmation of a solid plan. I don't get it. I watched Gray lose so many races to guys whom he had much faster times, but he became Napoleon Blownapart in the last 200m.

Symmonds runs much smarter. Rarely does he get passed in the last 200m.

Whether Solomon can back it up or not, he should shut up about his "Twilight Zone" tactic and just do it. If he is successful, tell Lewis Johnson after the race how perfectly his plan went. If not, we all know what stupid tactic he is going to try anyway because he only has one tactic. And chance are it won't work.

Some of you have never seen a waif of a guy who would crush these guys every week.

Rick Wohlhuter would kill every one of these guys and he was from 40 years ago

duane woud luv for peak rick to be in the race

it means duane coud have someone leading him for a change in a domestic race & just kick off him in the stretch

duane woud luv for peak rick to be in the race

it means duane coud have someone leading him for a change in a domestic race & just kick off him in the stretch

wejo wrote:I've done a 700 going world record pace, not tying up at all."

That's not unexpected.

Most elites should be able to do this.

This is ~ 88.28s for 700.

With expected 45.0 - 46.0 speed, that would imply potential of :

1'43.01 - 1'43.49

Obviously more impressive if solo, indicating well into 1'42s if drafting to bell.

However, above may not be quick enough to run away from Nick or Loxsom, but should be adequate to get top-3

Trialswatcher wrote:

Rick Wohlhuter would kill every one of these guys and he was from 40 years ago

Ah yes the good old days before steroids were banned

ventolin^3 wrote:

wejo wrote:I've done a 700 going world record pace, not tying up at all."

That's not unexpected.

Most elites should be able to do this.

This is ~ 88.28s for 700.

With expected 45.0 - 46.0 speed, that would imply potential of :

1'43.01 - 1'43.49

Obviously more impressive if solo, indicating well into 1'42s if drafting to bell.

However, above may not be quick enough to run away from Nick or Loxsom, but should be adequate to get top-3

Agree. Running world record pace for 700 of 800m world record pace and not rigging is almost a non statement.

Let him run 700m world record pace...where he is extended and giving it the max from 600 - to 700, and then see if he experiences any rig at all.

There are a lot of people who can run 1:16 - 1:18 for 600, who would then start to rig in the next ten to 20 meters...

It's easy to run 1:42 pace for 600 meters...and then finish at 1:52, lol.

Here's hoping for the most competitive team for USA at Worlds.

wrong, ventolin.

distances from around 800 to 1 mile convert reliably by the simple exponent 1.13

ex. Coe mid 80's 103.07 x (15/8)^1.13 = 209.7

The closer the two distances compared, the less room for error.

88.28 x (8/7)^1.13 = 102.65 simply on equivalent effort.

That would be faster still in a race, unfortunately Solomon never seems to have his shit together at the big events.

A New Orleans 92 flash back. Could be his best chance to make the team. If its a slow kickers race like NCAAs he could be staying home. But an extremely fast pace where he saves just enough to not tie up in the home stretch may not get him the win but should be good enough to punch his ticket.

Yeah and Rick Wohlhuter was a steroid user, usually I like your stuff. That I do not agree with. Also a 3"54 miler when WR was 3:51

Duane is just taking a page from his coach, Johnny Gray. But he is not that kind of guy, and these comments will probably back fire.

I am a big fan of Duane, but this boasting tells me that Duane is actually worried about his race today. Its almost as if he needs to make these statements in order to convince himself that he can win. If Duane goes by the 600 in 1:16, then you will see the wheels come off the Solomon train. He is simply not ready to run 1:43 right now. And that's ok. Just go out and get a top three finish in this race. And then you can work on your fitness for the next 6 weeks.

Probably just a strategy. Now everyone is gonna lay off at the start, while he gets a lead, everyone thinking he will be going out too fast, when really he'll be going quick but nothing near world record pace, and saving something small for the end.