MIAC XC 2015

Hamline or the Johnnies for both could make a run for 3rd

Going off of MIACs last fall,

St. Thomas loses their 3rd, 5th and 7th man

Saint Johns loses no one from their top 7

Hamline loses their 1st and 3rd man

The battle for third should be interesting, but St. Johns looks to have an advantage brining everyone back. It will be hard for Hamline to replace two of their strongest runners...

Olaf, Carleton,

Huge drop off- st John's, st thomas, Hamline, gustavus,

huge drop off- st Mary's, concordia, macalater, bethel, Augsburg

Collegevillez wrote:

Predictions, rankings, and insight to be posted here. Who've you got??

St. Olaf and Carleton are clearly the teams to beat. I think Olaf is a lock for conference and could make another bid for a nationals podium spot on the back of some crazy front runners (Campbell, Escher)

Carleton's Hart Horner is coming off a great NCAA outdoor meet and could make a splash at the big dance in November.

Battle for 3rd at MIACs? UST vs ...??

Could the MIAC havea national champion again this year in Jake Campbell?

Augsburg could have a pretty solid team with MoMo, Salan, Nur, Huss, Barqadle and whoever else. That is, if MoMo decides to put in some training.

"pretty solid team" as in breaking into the top half of the MIAC?

Solid? wrote:

"pretty solid team" as in breaking into the top half of the MIAC?

Well I mean they have finished DFL or near the last few years, so yes, around top half. Just naming a team...

St Johns lost LeClaire he's not coming out for cross, Hanson and Zimmy didn't train at all for outdoor and Kuzara has been hurt for a while and was only able to run close to a 17 flat on the track this year in the 5k. I wouldn't put them as the favorite right now.

Well in that case it looks like St. Thomas has third pretty locked up. Unless St. Johns/Hamline can reload quickly, which I don't see happening.

What teams do we see making it to nattys this year? St. Thomas barely snuck in last year, will we only see 3/4 team making it out of the region?

I thought that MoMo didn't have cross eligibility left.

No as in not finishing DFL this year

Obviously St. Olaf (1) and Carleton (2) are up top. Then I have UST easily in third place. The following three spots, however, should be an interesting battle between St. Johns, Hamline, and Gustavus.

In my opinion, the bottom half could shake out in any way. Predicting it would be nearly impossible.

How do you have St Thomas easily in third their top guys ran like shit in track for how they ran in cross. They're not bringing in any stud freshman just some decent 800m guys from Rosemount and Stillwater plus a few more guys looking to crack their roster. They're top returners haven't been able to be healthy or maintain fitness for long periods of time so how do you have them easily 3rd when in reality it's a toss up.

??? Check out the 5k honor roll. Behind Olaf and maybe Carleton, UST has the most returning depth easily (only 1 senior ran it for them). They had a couple solid steeplers too. It doesn't like look they'll be winning a national championship but none of the other teams behind them look to match up that well. They just have solid numbers.

To be honest, I don't invest much in track-to-cross country conversions but if that's your argument...

Auggie4lyfe wrote:

I thought that MoMo didn't have cross eligibility left.

10 semester rule.

Are you high? In what universe does Gustavus or Hamline have a remote chance of hanging in a conceivable battle between the Johnnies and Tommies?

Dopin wrote:

Are you high? In what universe does Gustavus or Hamline have a remote chance of hanging in a conceivable battle between the Johnnies and Tommies?

Funny. You seem to be neglecting Hamline's three-peat from 2009-11. I don't know how much you're weighting the halcyon days of Chris Erichsen or UST's magical championship run of 2003, but by my count, both the Johnnies and the Tommies have been irrelevant longer than the Hamdogs.

Pretty sure Dopin is talking about the upcoming season, not anything from the past. And he's for sure right about Hamline. Gustavus has a couple of decent guys, but probably not enough to finish higher than 5th.

JJJJRT wrote:

St Johns lost LeClaire he's not coming out for cross, Hanson and Zimmy didn't train at all for outdoor and Kuzara has been hurt for a while and was only able to run close to a 17 flat on the track this year in the 5k. I wouldn't put them as the favorite right now.

Zimny never runs outdoor track he just trains through it for cross, Hanson was studying abroad but consistently running the entire semester, and Kuzara was hurt for all of outdoor and only ran that 5k for the heck of it to try to sneak into the conference meet after only having been running for less than a month and with no workouts, obviously that didn't pan out. But, the Johnnies do actually have their entire top 8 returning this season so they will be a force to be reckoned with. Hamline and St. Thomas are looking good too with some strong recruits and returners. Should be an exciting season!

mnrunner256 wrote:

Zimny never runs outdoor track he just trains through it for cross, Hanson was studying abroad but consistently running the entire semester, and Kuzara was hurt for all of outdoor and only ran that 5k for the heck of it to try to sneak into the conference meet after only having been running for less than a month and with no workouts, obviously that didn't pan out. But, the Johnnies do actually have their entire top 8 returning this season so they will be a force to be reckoned with. Hamline and St. Thomas are looking good too with some strong recruits and returners. Should be an exciting season!

Why would anyone ever think its a good idea to "train through track to get ready for cross"?That is NUTS.