2:13 marathoner Tyler Pennel runs 3:58!!!!

go tyler

go zap

go reebok

Does anyone know where he is racing next?

His schedule -- here --

http://www.tylerpennelrunning.com/results/

says next race is June 14, Portland, 5km.

Wait a second, where is the guy claiming that unless you run 2:04 and 3:50 back to back it's not impressive. Come on LRC d'bags, you're slipping.

What's the sub-4 mile/2:10 marathon U.S. combo-record? Wanna say Greg Meyer, but I think his Boston was aided? Of course Hall could have at some point but never did.

Insane.

Douche alert wrote:

Wait a second, where is the guy claiming that unless you run 2:04 and 3:50 back to back it's not impressive. Come on LRC d'bags, you're slipping.

Well, according to the VDOT charts, his marathon time is soft and should be 2:11:54. :)

Just kidding. Amazing... simply awesome stuff!

MNM wrote:

What's the sub-4 mile/2:10 marathon U.S. combo-record? Wanna say Greg Meyer, but I think his Boston was aided? Of course Hall could have at some point but never did.

Alan Culpepper has the record at 3:55 and 2:09:41 (unaided).

Bobby Curtis has run 3:57 and 2:11:20, so he may have a shot to break it.

Also, did Ritz never run a sub-4?

Pretty rare for sub-4 and sub-2:15....Rice coach Jon Warren is one of the few to have done it.

Quenton Cassidy back in the day.

WhatARange wrote:

Twin Cities Marathon champion and Zap Fitness runner Tyler Pennel ran 3:58 to place second at the Nike Festival of Miles beating Grant Fisher and would have won if it were not for Macnamara's kick.... quite impressive.

I feel like he should try a 10k

That's Rod Dixon range!

cool kid wrote:

WhatARange wrote:

Twin Cities Marathon champion and Zap Fitness runner Tyler Pennel ran 3:58 to place second at the Nike Festival of Miles beating Grant Fisher and would have won if it were not for Macnamara's kick.... quite impressive.

I feel like he should try a 10k

You obviously mean another one???? Because if you follow the sport you would know that he ran 28:22 this year at Stanford.

Congrats Tyler! Must've been a huge pb for him because his race results on his website shows his 1500m pb to be 3:48.71 from the Raleigh Relays in this past March. Impressive range

Ackley wrote:

MNM wrote:

What's the sub-4 mile/2:10 marathon U.S. combo-record? Wanna say Greg Meyer, but I think his Boston was aided? Of course Hall could have at some point but never did.

Alan Culpepper has the record at 3:55 and 2:09:41 (unaided).

Bobby Curtis has run 3:57 and 2:11:20, so he may have a shot to break it.

Also, did Ritz never run a sub-4?

In my day I remember Paul Cummings being unusually good at both. Looked it up. 3:56.4 mile and 2:11:31 marathon. Given that he also ran a 3:37.6 1500m to break the indoor American record in 1978, he was one who stuck out as a rare miler/marathoner back then. Now we are seeing that the efficiency of running a fast mile does carry on up to the marathon in many cases.

Also keep in mind that 2:11 was his marathon debut. Tyler's an all around nice guy - glad good things are coming to him!

can we get a ventology on this guys 3k 5k 6k 7k 8k 9k 10k and half marathon potentials.

theheljsd;lfajsdlf wrote:

can we get a ventology on this guys 3k 5k 6k 7k 8k 9k 10k and half marathon potentials.

i can give you a statsgangsta-ology...

assuming he's CURRENTLY in shape to do BOTH of the times mentioned in this thread (3:58 & 28:22), I get

800 1:52.00

1000 2:22.60

1500 3:41.03

1-mile 3:58.0

3000 7:46.72

2-mile 8:23.33

5000 13:28.53

10000 28:22.0

half-mara 63:03.67

marathon 132:13.61

When did he run 2:13? Looks like he is currently in ~2:12 shape in a perfect race.

Also, you can play around with lap splits here:

WhatARange wrote:

Twin Cities Marathon champion and Zap Fitness runner Tyler Pennel ran 3:58 to place second at the Nike Festival of Miles beating Grant Fisher and would have won if it were not for Macnamara's kick.... quite impressive.

I can think of about 30 races I would have won if the guy(s) in front of me didn't have a kick...LOL...great job by Pennel...

Below is a list of the top 52 US Marathoners in order with their sub-4 listed. Only 7. I don't have handy US marathoners 53 and beyond...

2:05/none Khalid Khannouchi

2:06/none Ryan Hall

2:08/none Bob Kempainen

2:08/none Alberto Salazar

2:08/none Dick Beardsley

2:08/none Abdi Abdirahman

2:09/3:59.1h Greg Meyer

2:09/none Meb Keflezighi

2:09/none Bill Rodgers

2:09/none Ron Tabb

2:09/none David Morris

2:09/none Jerry Lawson

2:09/3:57.84 Ken Martin

2:09/3:55.12 Alan Culpepper

2:09/none Benji Durdan

2:10/none Dathan Ritzenhein

2:10/none Pat Petersen

2:10/none Phil Coppess

2:10/none Ed Mendoza

2:10/none Jeff Wells

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2:10/none Tony Sandoval

2:10/none Garry Bjorkland

2:10/none Craig Virgin

2:10/none Kirk Pfeffer

2:10/none Frank Shorter

2:10/none Brett Gotcher

2:10/3:59.1h Bill Donakowski

2:10/none Brian Sell

2:10/none John Tuttle

2:10/none John Lodwick

2:10/none Kyle Heffner

2:10/none Robert Hodge

2:10/none Ed Eyestone

2:10/none Marty Froelick

2:11/none Jason Hartman

2:11/none Dave Smith

2:11/none Don Norman

2:11/none Paul Pilkington

2:11/none Eamon O'Reilly

2:11/3:57.04 Rudy Chapa

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2:11/none Don Kardong

2:11/none Don Janicki

2:11/none Todd Williams

2:11/none Jack Fultz

2:11/none Rick Callison

2:11/none Michael Layman

2:11/none Randy Thomas

2:11/none Nicholas Arciniaga

2:11/3:56.4h Paul Cummings

2:11/3:59.19 Dan Browne

(50)

2:11/none Fred Torneden

2:11:36/none Ken Moore