Coach who should be on HOT SEAT if track were football or basketball

UCLA? They have 36 spots at regionals, by my count.

Rutgers

Tony Sandoval. Cal women scored only 3 points at Pac-12.

Brett Halter at Missouri, has completely destroyed what little team there may be at Mizzou, continues to finish last place on the men's side of SEC indoors and Out. Women are doing OK, but that may not last long either. New Ad needs to step up and make a CHANGE

Yes UCLA has many national quliifiers but when its all over and done how many All-Americans will they have? I say 2 as the over under...

It seems like this person is an unemployed/underemployed coach trying to stir the pot hoping for one of these coaches to be fired so they can unsuccessfully apply for their job.

yeah, but he is of course correct;

and i doubt he wants the beavis job

Who cares the motivation of the poster? Truth is the OP is dead on - if you look at all the football and basketball programs, there is real change when programs suck each and EVERY year and a new staff comes in and provides hope and usually improved coaching. But in track some old fart can hang on year after year in their job and who suffers? The athletes!

Perhaps the OP is someone who isn't even applying for jobs at all, just an observer who actually gives a F'ing damn about the athletes and the sport as a whole. Ever think of that???

Don't like having your program called out on Lets Run? Well cry me a damn river. This is nothing compared to national media heat your higher paid comrades must endure but just because you are not a 7 figure coach doesn't mean you shouldn't be held accountable for your poor performance. These poor coaches should take a step back and admit they suck and resign. Go do some other job where your poor performance doesn't ruin the one and only chance many athletes get in life to enjoy a collegiate athletic performance. You need to wake up every day and say I owe it to my athletes to give my fricking best to coach my ass off and not accept mediocrity in yourself. If that means tucking your tail between your legs and accepting you don't actually have all the answers and asking some friends in the sport for help then so be it but there are dozens of small college coaches if given the chance would coach circles around the guys listed above.

What I am surprised about is no one has provided one shred of reason why the OP is wrong on calling these dudes out for the job they are doing. You want to defend their poor performance then this forum is wide the F open!!!!!!!

Manhattan College

The program is horrible and gets by because they win or get 2nd in the Mets every year and bring in some European hammer thrower to score a few points at he NCAA's.

This program has been a shame for years

Christine Engel at Duke.

- Third from last team at Wisconsin Invite.

- Doesn't take a team to NCAA XC Regional.

- Loses Wesley Frazier.

- Frazier runs 15:45 three months after leaving the program illustrating how poor the Duke training program is.

Nothing wrong with a new coach cleaning house. Give her time.

not exactly. wrote:

Nothing wrong with a new coach cleaning house. Give her time.

Not sure it's called "cleaning house" when the athletes (Frazier) choose to leave.

Track coaches get away with highway robbery. They don't even have to win. If they were football coaches, some of these guys who have jobs for 30 yr would be driving a truck

I read one bio of a guy who not only hasn't won a conference meet, but his highlight was that like 5 yrs ago they finished 3rd.

He's been there since the 80s

spot on

The northeast is just a disgrace.

Holy Cross. Will someone please give that guy the hook?

Rutgers, both coaches

The women's coach at St Joe's remembers where he was when he heard Lincoln was shot.

St. John's

Fordham

Seton Hall Cross Country

Pitt - suit man wins nothing

The northeastern schools are filled with people who are ready for a gated community in Fla

I blame this on AD's. They just let it go on and on.

Thank God track isn't football or basketball.

Did you ever notice that the major team sports and big business fire the boss because he sucks but then someone else hires him?

Seriously?

runn wrote:

Did you ever notice that the major team sports and big business fire the boss because he sucks but then someone else hires him?

Seriously?

Many times this is because its a successful coach, who isn't getting it done any more, and maybe a different program is a better match for that coach. OR, the coach is successful, leaves their program for a new one, it doesn't work out, and they are hired again at another school because again the one in the middle might not have been the right fit.

However they don't get to monopolize a position for years , sometimes as much as half a century. You have to win. And if you mess up at too many jobs, you are out of the profession

Why must TF athletes suffer? wrote:

...just because you are not a 7 figure coach doesn't mean you shouldn't be held accountable for your poor performance. These poor coaches should take a step back and admit they suck and resign. Go do some other job where your poor performance doesn't ruin the one and only chance many athletes get in life to enjoy a collegiate athletic performance. You need to wake up every day and say I owe it to my athletes to give my fricking best to coach my ass off and not accept mediocrity in yourself.

Agreed. It took me four years to look in the mirror and find the reason why my program wasn't progressing.

The thought that I screwed some fine people out of a good experience in track and field bothers me even now, almost 20 years later. A lot.

Spot on about webb - losing three assistants in six months, anyone?