Who am I missing ...
Who am I missing ...
Lydiard.
The Penguin
whodatman wrote:
The Penguin
Absolutely. Nice catch. The Penguin could be the mountain the others are all carved on.
Oprah
Switzer.
Bill Bowerman
4:05
8:34
14:55
30:55
66:57
2:24:52
How do your PRs stack up?
blobbyjogger wrote:
Who am I missing ...
Galloway made an olympic team and set an american record for ten miles. I don't care what books he's written since; he doesn't belong in this discussion.
Jim Fixx
First of all, it's "whom."
Second of all, Galloway? Kara G? If you really want to go that way, you might as well put Frank Shorter up there as he pretty much inspired the original wave of "hobbyjoggers" from the 70s.
blobbyjogger wrote:
Who am I missing ...
Kara Goucher? World's medal.
Galloway? Olympic team
One can promote running for the masses. We should not be so elitist. We should be accepting of folks.
Also, please post your credentials that do not make you a hobbyjogger. Career titles, prize money won, etc.
Rushless wrote:
First of all, it's "whom."
Second of all, Galloway? Kara G? If you really want to go that way, you might as well put Frank Shorter up there as he pretty much inspired the original wave of "hobbyjoggers" from the 70s.
The first running boom was about racing and being fast. Those are not hobbyjoggers. That leaves Shorter out. While Galloway was fast in his prime, his coaching is participation based, not speed based.
Well, you have just proven you were not running during the 70s. They led jazzercize classes as warmups during the 70s. Jimmy Carter and his DNF was a bigger story than almost any marathon that year. The biggest running movies of the decade were about participation (mother beats boring lifestyle to train for Boston Marathon.) Runner's World came to be super popular in the 70s, as did The Runner. Both were 10% competitive runner, 90% jogger. Frank Shorter was awesome and inspiring the masses to run is not a bad thing, that was my point, but he did indeed spawn legion of the original hobbyjoggers.
BR was my idol wrote:
Rushless wrote:First of all, it's "whom."
Second of all, Galloway? Kara G? If you really want to go that way, you might as well put Frank Shorter up there as he pretty much inspired the original wave of "hobbyjoggers" from the 70s.
The first running boom was about racing and being fast. Those are not hobbyjoggers. That leaves Shorter out. While Galloway was fast in his prime, his coaching is participation based, not speed based.
Oh, lots of stuff:
Rock 'n Roll events.
Overpriced chic gear, like Oiselle and Lulu Lemon
Pose method
Crossfit Endurance
TnT
Rosie Ruiz
Kip Litton
Rossi
These are hobbyjoggers whose accomplishments have truly exceeded their capabilities.
Hal Higdon
seems that every hobby marathoner has heard of the guy and many even give him credit for helping them through their first marathon when all they did was find his very simple training plan with a google search.
I think Dean is a good choice
someone above mentioned Oprah, but I think that her running was more a symptom of the 2nd running boom than a contributory factor...people do care about beating her time though.
Whoever came up with adding standards to the Boston 'thon would be a good candidate because hobbyjoggers can't shut up about that.
perhaps whoever coined the phrase of "couch-to-5k" should go up on Mt. Runmore as well.
Why would you even start a thread about this?
Why do you even care about "hobbyjoggers?
You know, I am old enough to remember when the LAST person in roadraces was actually pretty good, in a very small field.
Ask the pros with big shoe contracts if they'd actually like to go back to that day.
Rushless wrote:
Well, you have just proven you were not running during the 70s. They led jazzercize classes as warmups during the 70s. Jimmy Carter and his DNF was a bigger story than almost any marathon that year. The biggest running movies of the decade were about participation (mother beats boring lifestyle to train for Boston Marathon.) Runner's World came to be super popular in the 70s, as did The Runner. Both were 10% competitive runner, 90% jogger. Frank Shorter was awesome and inspiring the masses to run is not a bad thing, that was my point, but he did indeed spawn legion of the original hobbyjoggers.
BR was my idol wrote:The first running boom was about racing and being fast. Those are not hobbyjoggers. That leaves Shorter out. While Galloway was fast in his prime, his coaching is participation based, not speed based.
Jimmy Carter dnf'ed because he was trying to run FAST, not walk/jog to the finish.
While you can say a hobbyjogger is anyone that can't throw down 5 minute pace, the first running boom was more about how fast you could run a certain distance, not just to see if you could finish a marathon. That is why the avg marathon times are so much slower now.
How has no one mentioned Dr Kenneth Cooper yet?
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
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