I'm sick of poeple telling me that I can't tolerate it because I'm insecure or threatened by it. I don't like seeing it because it is wrong. Homosexuality is wrong.
I'm sick of poeple telling me that I can't tolerate it because I'm insecure or threatened by it. I don't like seeing it because it is wrong. Homosexuality is wrong.
i'm not going to see it because i don't like how colin fairy and rosairo dawson are forced down my throat as the new it people that appear in every movie.
wouldn't like the gay scenese either.
although colin is hot.
I'm tired of that "yeah, there are gay scenes but Alexander was gay!" argument.
Dude, maybe he was gay. He was also polytheistic. The movie makes a point of throwing the gay scenes in your face but doesn't have scene after scene of animal sacrifice or mythology. Do you understand?
The movie goes overboard on the gayness.
The one big battle scene was kinda crappy too. It was confusing to say the least. I'm into history and a rated chess master but I'm not sure that the average person watching would enderstand that Alexander's attack against the Persian army hinged on a feigned outflanking maneuver designed to draw out the Persians and create an opening in the center where a thrust could be made at the nerve center. I'm not kidding. It was an overly complex attack. And the battle scenes were just too long. The only way I could really tell who was winning was by the music.
Some things were just stupid too. The Persians could have railed on the Greeks with their archers (surpirisingly, the only time that the Greeks used archers was against monkeys) but instead of decimating the Greeks, the Persians stopped after one salvo. Lame. Also, the battles looked kinda fake and got really boring. This is coming from a guy who loves battle scenes
But listen: the movie was really gay. Of course anyone who calls something gay is automatically a homophobe in your book. That's really clever of you, fag. Also, hitting on me doesn't work, I went to college in the bay area. And although it is flattering, I'm out of your league.
Anyway. The point is that the movie is gay. Too much gayness. And it is obviously done to prove a point and make people sick. Well, it worked.
not on the bible belt wrote:
I'm sick of poeple telling me that I can't tolerate it because I'm insecure or threatened by it. I don't like seeing it because it is wrong. Homosexuality is wrong.
fine. then don't see the film. you weren't one of the people i was addressing. i don't see films which depict things which i don't want to see. if you don't want to see a film with gay sex scenes -- and i respect that -- don't see it. i'm not interested in having people like yourself who have seen the film (i'm assuming you haven't) post on here telling how bad a film is because there was gay kissing or whatever when they knew or should have known that it was gonna be in the film. if you think homosexuality is wrong, vote with your dollars and don't see films that depict it approvingly.
strategery wrote:
Also, hitting on me doesn't work, I went to college in the bay area. And although it is flattering, I'm out of your league.
Yeah, like I'd really hit on you, strategery. :D Just making fun of the fact that you seem to be so uncomfortable with anything gay-related. And by the way, be careful with that stuck-up nose of yours waving in the air. If it rains, you might drown and then I'd be sad.
MrObvious wrote:
strategery wrote:Also, hitting on me doesn't work, I went to college in the bay area. And although it is flattering, I'm out of your league.
Yeah, like I'd really hit on you, strategery. :D Just making fun of the fact that you seem to be so uncomfortable with anything gay-related. And by the way, be careful with that stuck-up nose of yours waving in the air. If it rains, you might drown and then I'd be sad.
Three things for the cum-drunk fairy:
1) you signed a post to me "HUGS & KISSES" then say "yeah, like I'd hit on you." Hmm.
2) you think me turning you down is stuck up? Sorry dude, I like chicks. Get over it.
3) who said I was "so uncomfortable with anything gay related"? I knew the movie would have some gayness. Fine. I just didn't think that a full 100 minutes of the three hour flick was going to be about Alexander hooking up with men. In my first post I called the film "gay," right? Well you gays claim that he was gay -- what's the problem with me calling it gay? And homosexual undertones? Okay, as long as it isn't portrayed as the focus of the film - which it is. There are 3-4 balcony scenes with men looking into eachother's eyes. There's a scene with nearly nude men dancing that ends with Alexander kissing one of the guys. Overall, I'd guess that there were 30 man/man kisses. Compare that to the two scenes with man/woman (that border on rape).
strategery wrote:
1) you signed a post to me "HUGS & KISSES" then say "yeah, like I'd hit on you." Hmm.
I see that you also need to add the word 'sarcasm' to your vocabulary.
;)
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strategery wrote:
Anyway. The point is that the movie is gay. Too much gayness. And it is obviously done to prove a point and make people sick. Well, it worked.
You guys do realize that almost all men, especially those in the upper classes, durring this time period were "gay," right? Men had boys for lovers and women to make babies. That's right, the people most responsible for our culture and govenment structure were flaming pedophiles. But hey, maybe if you say "pc liberal pansy" three times and click your heels together all the "bad" things in history will go away.
Killing is wrong too....and stealing.....and adultery.....and lying
I could go on.
Enjoy the 4 movies ever made that have nothing "wrong" in them.
All you need is Spiderman 2 and Napoleon Dynamite coming out soon on DVD
wow, with so much talk about the movie on this message board you'd think someone in the cast got caught blood doping
troy was mad quea. i bet alexander is just as quea.
strategery wrote:
Dude, maybe he was gay. He was also polytheistic. The movie makes a point of throwing the gay scenes in your face but doesn't have scene after scene of animal sacrifice or mythology. Do you understand?
Actually, there were a lot of scenes about mythology and animal sacrifice...They sacrificed a freakin' cow before the battle scene.
I think it's fine they put the gay scenes in. They were kinda lame, but they would have been lame even if they were straight scenes, so the gay factor had nothing to do with it.
The movie sucked because of bad acting, bad music, bad plot...and pretty much bad everything. The story was horrible and dragged on. It was over-dramatic. It was just bad. They gay stuff really didn't matter.
"i'm training to be a cage fighter".
I didn't see the movie but was told that it got to the point where people were just laughing out loud after the 20th gay scene. Gay or not it was poorly done. Hence the "real" movie meaning was lost. Unless maybe the gay point was the "real" movie meaning. Hard to imagine that being gay or straight made Alexander the man he was or wasn't. I'll read the history book instead.
i think the purpose of all those homosexual scenes is a way to show that alexander had little control over his physical appetite. what made him so compelling was also his biggest vice.
as for the jew comment, just because a certain population only makes up for a small percentage of the whole sum doesn't mean that that percentage needs to be mapped onto some cinematic equivalent. the story behind the jews is certainly more fraught with struggle than most peoples. schindler's list is certainly a much more dramatic story than some plot about a wasp family and their struggle in everyday life.
as for the 'i'm a master-ranked chess player' point and that non-sequitur analogue to understanding alexander's strategy, sorry, dude, but read a book on his tactics. he did outflank and it did work. sorry if you couldn't understand it under your expertise of playing with set pieces on a checkerboard. if it makes you feel any better, no gets bobby fischer confused with norman schwartzkopf.
Hollywood wants all those stupid homophobes in the red-states to see that back in the day it was to be gay.
it seems to me ollie stone wanted to make a point on homosexuality. he did. and now the movie going public is making a point to him - they are not seeing the movie and it is bombing.
all i have to say is that gigli may have been better than alexander.... i cant think of a worse movie ive seen in the theatres. it was so bad it was funny.
why?
not on the bible belt wrote:
I'm sick of poeple telling me that I can't tolerate it because I'm insecure or threatened by it. I don't like seeing it because it is wrong. Homosexuality is wrong.
a little ethnocentric, huh? you seem to disregard other cultures where homosexuality is not taboo.
the movie was overextended -- it tried to cover too much in 3hrs and I odn't know whta the message is supposed to be but, "he was too brash and wanted to rule the world."
as for the gay scenes, poorly done. Our former Prefontaine just kind of looks longingly at Alexander and hugs him a lot. Yeah, that's hardcore gay sex.
Like I said, the day before I saw Alexander I watched "La Mala Educación" (The Bad Education). there's a gay movie for you -- it's called playing the roll.
Check out leading man Antonio Banderas in "The Law of Desire" if you want some gay sex.
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