Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

SmartRunnr wrote:

Track workout, sorry.

How very convenient, I must say though that the impression given was of a 5K, not 5000 metres. Having said that whenever I've done 3000M, 5000M or 10000M on the track, I've used a Garmin, logging stuff by hand is not my bag.

Multivitamin wrote:For example, say you ran a 99, 98, 102, 103, then back down to a 99 or something.

Are you kidding, or really that bad in keeping pace?

And why are you guys so interested in such a measly tempo run? I've gone faster...

As for the splits, we were gunning for 4:10 per km. An ok pace for 5k, giving Mike's current status of fitness after his injury, and his goal to (significantly) break 1:30 in a half marathon.

250 sec per km, 50 sec per 200 m line, easy to control. I don't press my watch all the time. I find it mentally helpful to check regularly, and then press every km (2.5 laps): 4:08 - 4:10 - 4:09 - 4:11 - 4:08.

Question for you: will it bother you, when the brojos lose one challenge after the other? They are all quite doable, you know.

That's great advice and all but Mike never said he ran his "20:47" on a track or mentioned anything about splits. You are responded to SmartRunnr who has been trolling this thread from time to time since the registration requirement went into effect.

We all know Mike didn't run a 20:47 5K last Friday afternoon. We all know he didn't have a friend there that can vouch for him. Mike does not have friends.

Mike's been up early and deleted both tweets.

Kip Litton wrote:

Mike, I saw your tweet and straight away thought of Lance, then scrolled down and saw the Christian Prior tweet, I'm guessing most people will be thinking the same.

The Prior tweet won't stay there long.

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Mike Rossi

‏@mikerossi22 Yes, we raised a lot of $$$ for cops today. #haters, #hacks & #homewreckers...what did you do today? NOTHING Mike 3:11:45

8:36 PM - 3 Aug 2015

Christian Prior @cprior_ · 7m7 minutes ago

@mikerossi22 #hacks Raising the charity shield equals #cheater. We learned that from Armstrong. Greetings from Europe!

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Also, I guess he could raise a lot more if he took up the Brojo's challenge

[quote]TroII-o-Meter wrote:

Mike's been up early and deleted both tweets.

[quote]Kip Litton wrote:

But not fast enough. ;-)

http://imgur.com/rG9jDr3

SmartRunnr wrote:

Multivitamin wrote:For example, say you ran a 99, 98, 102, 103, then back down to a 99 or something.

Are you kidding, or really that bad in keeping pace?

And why are you guys so interested in such a measly tempo run? I've gone faster...

As for the splits, we were gunning for 4:10 per km. An ok pace for 5k, giving Mike's current status of fitness after his injury, and his goal to (significantly) break 1:30 in a half marathon.

250 sec per km, 50 sec per 200 m line, easy to control. I don't press my watch all the time. I find it mentally helpful to check regularly, and then press every km (2.5 laps): 4:08 - 4:10 - 4:09 - 4:11 - 4:08.

Question for you: will it bother you, when the brojos lose one challenge after the other? They are all quite doable, you know.

Isn't it do one of them and get the cash? I.E. 5k OR 10 miler OR ....

LMR wrote:

[quote]TroII-o-Meter wrote:

Mike's been up early and deleted both tweets.

[quote]Kip Litton wrote:

But not fast enough. ;-)

http://imgur.com/rG9jDr3

The Christian Prior reply is here:

Looks like you could have a buddy here Ken: https://twitter.com/millsy262 as long as you keep it on topic.

SmartRunnr wrote:

Are you kidding, or really that bad in keeping pace?

And why are you guys so interested in such a measly tempo run? I've gone faster...

As for the splits, we were gunning for 4:10 per km. An ok pace for 5k, giving Mike's current status of fitness after his injury, and his goal to (significantly) break 1:30 in a half marathon.

250 sec per km, 50 sec per 200 m line, easy to control. I don't press my watch all the time. I find it mentally helpful to check regularly, and then press every km (2.5 laps): 4:08 - 4:10 - 4:09 - 4:11 - 4:08.

Question for you: will it bother you, when the brojos lose one challenge after the other? They are all quite doable, you know.

Bullshit, as soon as someone says "5K" they do not mean track.

Whyamihere wrote:

[quote]SmartRunnr wrote:

Isn't it do one of them and get the cash? I.E. 5k OR 10 miler OR ....

The wording seems quite clear: the $100,000 offer is independent of the offers, but Mike can't get $20,000 for running the 5k and the 10M:

"So we’ll also give him $10,000 if by the end of 2015 he breaks 70:00 in a standard 10-mile course or 20:00 for 5k."

This is going to be so much fun!

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Bullshit, as soon as someone says "5K" they do not mean track.

You must be new here.

SmartRunnr wrote:

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

I was hoping for the Garmin track Mike's recent 5K PB pacer must have somewhere.

Track workout, sorry.

I was thinking that too.

If it was a track workout, he might have run 12 laps thinking it was about 3 miles, and thinking that's close enough to call it a 5K. His time was about what you would expect of him for 12 laps, but not for the 12.5 laps required for a real 5K.

SmartRunnr wrote:

You must be new here.

No, I can tell you when I started reading Letsrun seriously, it was also to do with Marathon Cheating and the person in question was called William Jurena - if anyone qould like to date that.

So, to say it again - I have never heard anyone refer to a track distance of 5000 Metres as 5K.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

So, to say it again - I have never heard anyone refer to a track distance of 5000 Metres as 5K.

Wut? I have been an athlete and fan of track for 40 years and a track 5000 is called a "5k" many times, maybe most of the time. You obviously are not in the US and English is not your native language, but I've also lived in other countries and they call it a "5k" also.

elephino wrote:

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

So, to say it again - I have never heard anyone refer to a track distance of 5000 Metres as 5K.

Wut? I have been an athlete and fan of track for 40 years and a track 5000 is called a "5k" many times, maybe most of the time. You obviously are not in the US and English is not your native language, but I've also lived in other countries and they call it a "5k" also.

very few people distinguish between 5000 and 5k as being track vs road. not in my circle at least.

In my experience, when someone says "5000 meters" they are always talking about the track.

When someone says, "5K", they are usually, but not always, talking about a road race.

If I were Mike and I were seriously going to go after the 5K challenge, I'd consider setting up my own race on the track. I'd have a pacer to help me hit the 19:59. Pacing would be critical and it's easier to find someone who can pace you accurately on a track than on the road.

Fat hurts wrote:

In my experience, when someone says "5000 meters" they are always talking about the track.

When someone says, "5K", they are usually, but not always, talking about a road race.

Agree. I would add, however, that when someone is talking about the 5000 meter track race, they say "five k" or "five thousand" with about equal frequency.

Please forgive me Ken, but I'm confused. I need some clarification.

1. Why are you doing work for your "media connection?" If she felt like this was a legitimate story, why is she not doing her own legwork? Or are you co-authoring this piece?

2. A few posts back, you claimed that the article was about how the LVM Committee won't listen to any new evidence. How do you know this when there is no new evidence?

3. Now you are claiming that you are contacting runners to determine that there was no investigation. Is that the premise of the article you are now co-authoring? I'm a big fan of your work, so I just want to know what I should be looking for in the coming days, when the big expose comes out.

4. Are you still investigating whether or not the Fraternal Order of Police Survivor's Fund is a legitimate charity? Any breakthroughs on this front?

5. Do you have any idea how sad, pathetic and mentally ill you sound?

I realize you are incredibly busy man (I wouldn't even know where to begin if I was going to make an Oreo nacho smoothie) so I totally understand if you can't answer all my questions. So if you can't answer them all, please just answer #5.

Oh, by the way, Mike didn't run a 3:11. I know that, because I am a runner. Not a DJ. I don't live on the eastern seaboard, and I have never, ever met Mike Rossi. So feel free to call me one of Mike's minions, but at least to me it will only re-affirm how mentally ill you really are.

Hi Ken!

You guys are holding Mike Rossi to too high of a standard on the semantics of 5000m/5K. He's not trying to be sly, he's just an idiot.

I did love the bit about 250 seconds per km. Were they checking their splits at 800m saying: "We're at 202 seconds, better pick it up a little!"

I am going to personally suggest that Rossi runs his big $10,000 sub-20 at the Pennsylvania District 1 XC Champs in Bethlehem, PA in October. If he can finish in the top-70 in the girl's AAA race, he could have a shot.

1. He'd have similar competition, you know, 14-18 year old girls, needed to hit his goal time.

2. It'd generate a ton of press, which he loves

3. He'd get paid and would get to rub it in the #haters' faces.

Win-win-win