Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

LoserMikeRossi wrote:

Agreedddd wrote:

I am one who is working on the same thing. Go back and read. I however write and stick to the evidence, because the rest of the stuff, i.e., wife, kids, etc., has no bearing on his guilt and its not evidence. The only thing that does is make people think this is being run by a vindictive lunatic. It is not your position to worry about an apology for the principal, who I actually know. It is up to her. As as much of a stretch it is to get him to admit he cheated, he isn't going to apologize to her here or in your presence, no is he required or beholden to do so. Of course he would be we served to apologize publicly if he decides to apologize as it would help with his tarnished image. And please, don't lecture me about the history of this. I have as much, if not more, knowledge as you about it.

We are both looking for similar outcomes, but what you sometimes "put down" here is not conducive to getting results by those who can make a DQ decision or decide to write about it. For that matter, other runners from that race may come visit here and see how this has devolved into very personal and family attacks and just stay away from helping!

So please....

You somehow think that is he is DQ'd everything will be fine. But a lot of people watched him run to the press and bully that principal into trying to get his kids special treatment. You know the principal. I now many teachers across the city. I have filmed their weddings, their daughters weddings, my girlfriend is a teacher and we're hanging out with teacher friends this weekend.

For them a private apology that gets swept under the rug is not enough. These teachers are the people who have to show up at kids funeral each year, even when hey don't know the student, because somebody bullies another student into committing suicide. My girlfriend has attended two in the 15 months we have been dating.

A DQ doesn't show anybody that a bully has been put in his place. They probably won't even make him return the medals. He'll just let them hang there and he can still lie to people that he "earned" them.

A public apology would mean a whole lot more. I don't even want to see Mike grovel. Mark McGwire admitted he doped and he's a frikkin' hitting coach now. I'd rather see Mike come clean, do the right thing, and try and start over and mend fences.

I'm not The Joker. I don't just want to watch the world burn. I care about people. It's time to start caring about the people and not the little chunks of metal around his neck.

Agreedddd wrote:

LoserMikeRossi wrote:

You somehow think that is he is DQ'd everything will be fine. But a lot of people watched him run to the press and bully that principal into trying to get his kids special treatment. You know the principal. I now many teachers across the city. I have filmed their weddings, their daughters weddings, my girlfriend is a teacher and we're hanging out with teacher friends this weekend.

For them a private apology that gets swept under the rug is not enough. These teachers are the people who have to show up at kids funeral each year, even when hey don't know the student, because somebody bullies another student into committing suicide. My girlfriend has attended two in the 15 months we have been dating.

A DQ doesn't show anybody that a bully has been put in his place. They probably won't even make him return the medals. He'll just let them hang there and he can still lie to people that he "earned" them.

A public apology would mean a whole lot more. I don't even want to see Mike grovel. Mark McGwire admitted he doped and he's a frikkin' hitting coach now. I'd rather see Mike come clean, do the right thing, and try and start over and mend fences.

I'm not The Joker. I don't just want to watch the world burn. I care about people. It's time to start caring about the people and not the little chunks of metal around his neck.

First, Pal, I was NOT the original poster of the sextape, but instead responded that it would cause me years of therapy. Me!

Second, don't tell me what I think.

Third, this is a running and athletic based website, so in terms of a DQ, that is most relevant.

Fourth, I know what he did in the media. I lived it. I am in his neighborhood. Your holier than thou attitude is not helping though.

Fifth, your argument switched from getting the principal justice to now all the teachers you know etc. You really don't do yourself justice when you can't even stick to your original premise or basis of your outrage.

Sixth, bullying is bad. I agree. But I am an athlete, runner, etc., and I am, especially here, more concerned about the integrity of a race and those runners and participants whose legitimate efforts of training and running the race were dimimished by Rossi and the LVHN Committee. That is directly related to a DQ.

Seventh, if you want to champion teachers' rights vis-a-vis Rossi, go do so on a teachers' blog.

Eighth, you have aspects of bullying in what you have written here over the recent past.

Ninth, in relation to eighth, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Tenth, the end.

Agreedddd wrote:

LoserMikeRossi wrote:

You somehow think that is he is DQ'd everything will be fine. But a lot of people watched him run to the press and bully that principal into trying to get his kids special treatment. You know the principal. I now many teachers across the city. I have filmed their weddings, their daughters weddings, my girlfriend is a teacher and we're hanging out with teacher friends this weekend.

For them a private apology that gets swept under the rug is not enough. These teachers are the people who have to show up at kids funeral each year, even when hey don't know the student, because somebody bullies another student into committing suicide. My girlfriend has attended two in the 15 months we have been dating.

A DQ doesn't show anybody that a bully has been put in his place. They probably won't even make him return the medals. He'll just let them hang there and he can still lie to people that he "earned" them.

A public apology would mean a whole lot more. I don't even want to see Mike grovel. Mark McGwire admitted he doped and he's a frikkin' hitting coach now. I'd rather see Mike come clean, do the right thing, and try and start over and mend fences.

I'm not The Joker. I don't just want to watch the world burn. I care about people. It's time to start caring about the people and not the little chunks of metal around his neck.

First, Pal, I was NOT the original poster of the sextape, but instead responded that it would cause me years of therapy. Me!

Second, don't tell me what I think.

Third, this is a running and athletic based website, so in terms of a DQ, that is most relevant.

Fourth, I know what he did in the media. I lived it. I am in his neighborhood. Your holier than thou attitude is not helping though.

Fifth, your argument switched from getting the principal justice to now all the teachers you know etc. You really don't do yourself justice when you can't even stick to your original premise or basis of your outrage.

Sixth, bullying is bad. I agree. But I am an athlete, runner, etc., and I am, especially here, more concerned about the integrity of a race and those runners and participants whose legitimate efforts of training and running the race were dimimished by Rossi and the LVHN Committee. That is directly related to a DQ.

Seventh, if you want to champion teachers' rights vis-a-vis Rossi, go do so on a teachers' blog.

Eighth, you have aspects of bullying in what you have written here over the recent past.

Ninth, in relation to eighth, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Tenth, the end.

NotABQer wrote:

Ken, for the love of God, drop the bullying angle (or at least save it for another forum). This is strictly about Mike's running of the LVM, or lack of running it. The thread is about finding evidence of him actually running it; which none has surfaced, and unlikely will. But turning this into 'putting him in his place' and shaming him for the letter to the principal is a bunch of crap. We are all in agreement that bullying is bad, but that is not the issue here. We all agree that it would be helpful if Mike just came clean; he would feel better, people would forgive him and the vitriol from the average person would die out. Obviously that is not going to happen though. But to turn this into an 8th grade, "I know you are but what am I" debate is just silly. Keep the discussion on the matter of the race, or race related topics please. Leave out the stuff on the wife, kids and teachers - it is all irrelevant.

LoserMikeRossi wrote:

NotABQer wrote:

Ken, for the love of God, drop the bullying angle (or at least save it for another forum). This is strictly about Mike's running of the LVM, or lack of running it. The thread is about finding evidence of him actually running it; which none has surfaced, and unlikely will. But turning this into 'putting him in his place' and shaming him for the letter to the principal is a bunch of crap. We are all in agreement that bullying is bad, but that is not the issue here. We all agree that it would be helpful if Mike just came clean; he would feel better, people would forgive him and the vitriol from the average person would die out. Obviously that is not going to happen though. But to turn this into an 8th grade, "I know you are but what am I" debate is just silly. Keep the discussion on the matter of the race, or race related topics please. Leave out the stuff on the wife, kids and teachers - it is all irrelevant.

Okay, so let's recap.

1. Mike cheated, this we all know.

2. Mike will never admit it, we also know.

3. There is no chance of finding evidence to prove it.

4. Talking about his cheating is good, but....

5. talking about his bullying and people he has hurt is bad.

Congratualtions! Mike is a Sith Lord and his Jedi mind tricks have worked on you.

So I guess you and i should just do something better with our times, like Mike says. Woohoo!

LoserMikeRossi'sRegret wrote:

I was wrong to reference 9/11 and kids and wife and so many other things. I am sorry for losing sight of what is really important. I recognize that I have let my emotions get the better of me. I am sorry and remorseful. For a big man I have been acting and thinking very small. To be effective I am giving up arguing with the history of posts, I will let others have the last word. To atone for my words I have made a donation to the

http://www.pacer.org/bullying

organization. Ironically it is called pacer. Maybe we can help set the pace for something better out of this thread. I am donating $3.11, I know it is not much but is symbolic. I hope others will join too. I also just ran for 3 minutes and 11 seconds. It was hard, it felt like penance, I started to get sick. I respect all you runners who really do run.

I acknowledge that not only do many of you have reason to conclude that I am a bully, but that I have self-examined and conclude that as well. No one should be a bully or be bullied. I know that when I saw what I perceive as a bully get down I wanted to stop him and give a taste of his own medicine. I now realize that no one should experience that either as bully or victim. Even bullies do not deserve to be bullied. Otherwise a cycle of anger and hurt continues and neverends.

I want it to stop, so I must stop as well. Wouldn't it be great if instead of 10000 posts we could raise $1000 for the pacer org. I hope you will join the cause.