Grant Fisher 3:42.89 at PJ

It's a Good, but still not a sub 4 mile equivalent, even with people in front of him. Could it be that Grant just doesn't have the leg speed to become an outstanding miler? I see him projecting as a national class 5K runner in a few years. In noticed that the Oregon freshman, Blake Haney ran a very nice 3:41.27 in the same race. I looks like Haney has adjusted well to college training.

Milling Miler wrote:

It's a Good, but still not a sub 4 mile equivalent, even with people in front of him. Could it be that Grant just doesn't have the leg speed to become an outstanding miler? I see him projecting as a national class 5K runner in a few years. In noticed that the Oregon freshman, Blake Haney ran a very nice 3:41.27 in the same race. I looks like Haney has adjusted well to college training.

Get your Oregon fanboy crap out of here.

Thanks

His coach said that he would NOT be chasing times this year and has now entered him in college meets 2 weeks in a row.

Milling Miler wrote:

It's a Good, but still not a sub 4 mile equivalent, even with people in front of him. Could it be that Grant just doesn't have the leg speed to become an outstanding miler? I see him projecting as a national class 5K runner in a few years. In noticed that the Oregon freshman, Blake Haney ran a very nice 3:41.27 in the same race. I looks like Haney has adjusted well to college training.

A U.S. HS boy just ran a 4:00.XX equivalent and you are speculating about his lack of leg speed? If he doesn't qualify, who possibly can?

Excellent for a HS runner, however too much hype around this kid and his coach telling everyone he is "capable" of sub4:00 but they aren't going to chase it. Blah blah

No sub 4:00 for him. You can't run sub 3:42 @ Payton Jordan with college kids and pacers to follow not going to be going sub 4

Milling Miler wrote:

It's a Good, but still not a sub 4 mile equivalent, even with people in front of him. Could it be that Grant just doesn't have the leg speed to become an outstanding miler? I see him projecting as a national class 5K runner in a few years. In noticed that the Oregon freshman, Blake Haney ran a very nice 3:41.27 in the same race. I looks like Haney has adjusted well to college training.

You don't believe that he IS ALREADY and outstanding miler?

What would one have to run to be considered (by you) to be an outstanding miler?

A good result considering it's his second race of the season and he only managed 3:46 last weekend. Will anybody really be surprised if he improves another 3 seconds by season's end to run 3:39 / 3:57? Seems like he is still on track to get under 4. That said, he isn't without competition at the high school level.

mxcrunner wrote:

good? bad? or indifferent?

Great.

Grant Fisher congrats on your 4 minute mile

fred wrote:

mxcrunner wrote:

good? bad? or indifferent?

Great.

Grant Fisher congrats on your 4 minute mile

What does this convert to for 1600m?

newname wrote:

Milling Miler wrote:

It's a Good, but still not a sub 4 mile equivalent, even with people in front of him. Could it be that Grant just doesn't have the leg speed to become an outstanding miler? I see him projecting as a national class 5K runner in a few years. In noticed that the Oregon freshman, Blake Haney ran a very nice 3:41.27 in the same race. I looks like Haney has adjusted well to college training.

You don't believe that he IS ALREADY and outstanding miler?

What would one have to run to be considered (by you) to be an outstanding miler?

Anything over 3.53 for the mile ( or 3.36 for 1500m) simply isn't good enough to be outstanding at the HS level. Even a hack like Alan Webb did that, and doesn't even have an Olympic medal. If he runs a 3.35 1500m in the next month, then (and only then) he will truly be outstanding.

3.5 second PR. Anybody know where that ranks among the top high schoolers? Two sub 3:43 high schoolers in one year is impressive.

cwarcarblue11 wrote:

3.5 second PR. Anybody know where that ranks among the top high schoolers? Two sub 3:43 high schoolers in one year is impressive.

I think that makes him the 4th fastest ever behind Maton Ryun and Webb

Stick with eharmony wrote:

Milling Miler wrote:

It's a Good, but still not a sub 4 mile equivalent, even with people in front of him. Could it be that Grant just doesn't have the leg speed to become an outstanding miler? I see him projecting as a national class 5K runner in a few years. In noticed that the Oregon freshman, Blake Haney ran a very nice 3:41.27 in the same race. I looks like Haney has adjusted well to college training.

Get your Oregon fanboy crap out of here.

Thanks

Get lost eharmony. Come back when you aren't the scum of the earth. Haney ran a nice time, there's only one person obsessed with Oregon on this thread and it's you, pathetic.

Yup, 4th fastest ever. And Christina Aragon ran the 5th fastest 1500 meters for HS girls today as well (4:16.36).

http://fl.milesplit.com/articles/153149-grant-fisher-us-4-all-time-34289-1500-

Grant is the real deal. Boys Dream Mile this year, with favorable weather, sub-4.

This kid is the real deal. He's basically where Hall and Sage were in high school, but posted that mark off of much less training than either of those two.

I've said since his last FL win (which looked so easy he looked like he could've won while he was eating a sandwich and texting his girlfriend) that he has the tools to be the third-fastest HS miler behind Webb & Ryun as Danielson, Liquori and Verzbicas were all just under 4:00. This kid ran 4:02 as a junior while playing soccer. In that regard, he bears a little resemblance to Wheating, though he's well ahead of where Wheating was at this point. His upside is enormous. Whether he will or not is another question, but he ran 3:42 running wide the entire race.

I think this kid has a monster future ahead of him.

This time is obviously behind Maton's 3:42.54(?) and Hall's 3:42.70, in addition to other converted times, but he's obviously right there close to the 4:00 converted line with a big pr at 1500m and a great shot at breaking 4 in the mile this year. Four or five college guys in one race at Stanford broke 3:40 today, so he'll not be wanting for competition next year.

Poor coaching. The cult environment isn't working.

The Donger wrote:

Poor coaching. The cult environment isn't working.

Are you saying you could coach him better?

Better than 2 x Footlocker, 2 x National Indoor mile, Dream Mile Champ, Brooks PR Champ, undefeated in HS cross for 2 years and approaching the same for track, World Youth and World Junior Championships?

Who are you? We need coaches like you. Please identify yourself as I know many kids that would want you to coach them if you are better than GF's coach. One check though... Who have you coached, how fast were/are they, and to what level did you get them to?

Though so.

"The Donger" lives up to his name again. The Donger is an idiot.

Milling Miler wrote:

It's a Good, but still not a sub 4 mile equivalent, even with people in front of him. Could it be that Grant just doesn't have the leg speed to become an outstanding miler? I see him projecting as a national class 5K runner in a few years. In noticed that the Oregon freshman, Blake Haney ran a very nice 3:41.27 in the same race. I looks like Haney has adjusted well to college training.

Actually - very good!

Second race of the year, second PR of the year, 4th fastest HS 1500m in US history. I'll go out on a limb here and say EXTREMELY GOOD.

Leg speed... It's the kids second race of the outdoor season. Boy some arm chair coaches are tough to please. Actually I hope you are not a coach as you would destroy kids in order to stroke your ego in having them showing amazing leg speed early season. AND have you seen GF run during the championship part of his seasons the last couple of years? I suggest you do as he has blistering leg speed. Perhaps the beginning of May is NOT GF's championship season.

Most college kids are entering their championship season. Most college kids won't make it to mid-June and NCAA's The top college kids that will make it to NCAA's are so strong that they too haven't worked a ton yet on leg speed. Same would hold true for the top HS kids if they are coached well. On that point, I will reiterate again GF is coached very well. The proof is clear to see but yet there always remains some that think they could do a better job. Look in the mirror and ask yourself "who have I coached lately"