Tapering and Prediction for 800 meter

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8 years ago 04/27/2015 7:13pm EDT

Was hoping to get some input about tapering information on what to do a week from a big race (state) and a prediction for my 800 meters. I've went 1:56 this year on multiple occasions. And have ran high 49 seconds for the open 400. I do about 20 miles a week and a lot of interval training. Yesterday I did a time predictor workout where I ran a 500 meters comfortably in 1:10 and then took about a min and a half off and run a 39-40 second 300 meter. Now I'm in no way capable of running 1:50 but was hoping to get some input. Hoping in good conditions and rested to go 1:53. Also if I was hoping to go 1:53-54 what should my first lap be. I usually kick with about a 27-28 second last 200 meter. First lap has been around 57-58. Another good workout Ive put in recently was a 4x400 meter workout with a 8 min break. Starting at 58, 55, 54, 51. Hoping to get some advice! Thanks!!!

8 years ago 04/27/2015 7:29pm EDT

re: fasttrack153

8 years ago 04/27/2015 7:36pm EDT

re: fasttrack153

Haha, 1:56. My open 400 time is 54.5 and I'm a 3200 guy (9:04) that runs 65 miles a week and my 800 PR is 1:54.2. I couldn't even dream of that last 4x400 workout and I can still wreck you.

8 years ago 04/28/2015 12:24am EDT

re: Freedan

OP runs 1:56 on 20 miles easily and his 4x400 workout is really strong, in contrast your PR is 1:54 on 65 miles. I think you couldn´t even dream of his talent. Reflect on your last sentence.

8 years ago 04/28/2015 11:37am EDT

re: Danfree

Any advice or predictions?

8 years ago 04/28/2015 12:51pm EDT

re: fasttrack153

You have decent speed so you should be comfortable going out in the 54-55 range. Instead of waiting for the last 200 to kick, try to start building with 300 to go and then get into your full kick at 200.

I don't think I would mess around with my workouts just before the state meet. The hay is now in the barn, you just need to sharpen up with some quick stuff like your 500/300 workout or even some 200's with decent recovery between.

I think you could go 1:53 now but with 49 speed, I think you could get to 1:50 if you had more strength work. Maybe even race a few 1500's early in the season next year, and run some mileage this summer. Try that 400 workout with less recovery.

8 years ago 04/28/2015 1:46pm EDT

re: fasttrack153

fasttrack153 wrote:
Hoping to get some advice! Thanks!!!

Go out in 53 and run 1:50.

8 years ago 04/28/2015 1:51pm EDT

re: fasttrack153

First 40m hard. Next 160m float. 200m-300m flat out. Last 100m hang in there and pray.

4 years ago 04/30/2019 3:51am EDT

re: fasttrack153

fasttrack153 wrote:
Was hoping to get some input about tapering information on what to do a week from a big race (state) and a prediction for my 800 meters. I've went 1:56 this year on multiple occasions. And have ran high 49 seconds for the open 400. I do about 20 miles a week and a lot of interval training. Yesterday I did a time predictor workout where I ran a 500 meters comfortably in 1:10 and then took about a min and a half off and run a 39-40 second 300 meter. Now I'm in no way capable of running 1:50 but was hoping to get some input. Hoping in good conditions and rested to go 1:53. Also if I was hoping to go 1:53-54 what should my first lap be. I usually kick with about a 27-28 second last 200 meter. First lap has been around 57-58. Another good workout Ive put in recently was a 4x400 meter workout with a 8 min break. Starting at 58, 55, 54, 51. Hoping to get some advice! Thanks!!!

You need to add aerobic work to your training.

My 400 pr is high-52, but my 800 pr is 1:53. My specialty is the 800, but my coach thinks I should do the Mile. 50-60 miles a week during base helped me to the 1:53, along with lots of speed endurance intervals. I used to do only 40 a week and ran 1:58.

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