Schumacher's Son

hayward102 wrote:

Jerry Schumacher's freshman son ran an 8:36 3000m last night at the Centennial Invitational in Oregon. I believe that is the #2 all-time freshman time in Oregon. It will be interesting to see his development over the next 3+ years.

Hayward, I know you are a good guy and just pointing out a great performance, but this kid is going to be under so much pressure that I recommend that we let him grow up quietly for as long as he can.

Just like his dad stays out of the limelight let's help his family lie low.

Joshua Schumacher finished 3rd in the fastest heat (8:36). Seed time coming in was 8:50. He's legit. Althought there was another freshman who went sub-9 as well.

8:36 3k converts by 1.08x to 9:17.3 (national class record, discounting Verzbicas, is about a 9:01-2 by Krahn). Outstanding freshman time and with that coaching, he will likely be running faster at the end of the season but more importantly very fast in college.

Any chance this kid DOESN'T go to Wisconsin?

It won't be Oregon. 100% guarantee.

Wuz there wrote:

hayward102 wrote:

Jerry Schumacher's freshman son ran an 8:36 3000m last night at the Centennial Invitational in Oregon. I believe that is the #2 all-time freshman time in Oregon. It will be interesting to see his development over the next 3+ years.

Hayward, I know you are a good guy and just pointing out a great performance, but this kid is going to be under so much pressure that I recommend that we let him grow up quietly for as long as he can.

Just like his dad stays out of the limelight let's help his family lie low.

If he can't handle the pressure don't even start running. I hate it when folks like yourself come on here and act like the pressure is a bad thing. If he wants to be the best and has the talent and the drive than he better get used to the pressure. If he can't handle it than it wasn't meant to be. You don't make it to the top without having a hard shell and ignoring all the crazy energy that comes with expectations. If he falters and breaks down because of the pressure than that's life.

On that note I wish him the best and hope he has all the goods needed to be a great athlete.

Darn sure wrote:

It won't be Oregon. 100% guarantee.

Agreed. Powell and Salazar are buddy-buddy, and Schumacher and Salazar are sworn enemies.

That's life wrote:

If he can't handle the pressure don't even start running. I hate it when folks like yourself come on here and act like the pressure is a bad thing...

How about

(A) You put your money where your mouth is and post your name, address and phone number plus all your recent race results. A little 'pressure' would help you out, by your logic.

(B) You think for 2.5 seconds and realize that this 14 year old did not ask for your attention and probably does not want it.

Wow, this really makes me feel old. When Jerry was my coach, this cute little rugrat was in a stroller. Man, I feel like that was just yesterday.

Let the kid be anonymous for a little while. Knowing Jerry, I bet he won't even give the kid coaching advice until it is time for college.

I doubt highly he goes to Wisconsin as I don't think his training will agree with Mick Byrne's.

Out

Wuz there wrote:

Hayward, I know you are a good guy and just pointing out a great performance, but this kid is going to be under so much pressure that I recommend that we let him grow up quietly for as long as he can.

Yeah this kid should grow up hiding from cameras, the same as his dad.

You're right, I couldn't handle the pressure even though I had some descent talent which meant I didn't have what it took to be an elite athlete.

However, I know many professional runners personally that started running very fast early and they all have the ability to handle the pressure that comes with high expectations. It's pure and simple, whether little Schumacher wants attention or not he already has a thread on Letsrun about him.. With a few more races like his 8:36 and he's going to have a lot more discussions about his future talents. We are doing the kid a service because name recognition is a huge factor in contracts down the road if he has that kind of talent...

How would you like this thread to go? No one to ever mention a potential future star of running on a website made to discuss running?

Hopefully he doesn't follow in Erik Heinonen's (son of former U of O distance coach) footsteps, 1 good race and then a lot of nothing...

No high school kid asks for attention from the people who post here, why do you think this kid should be treated any differently?

REALITY CZECHER wrote:

Knowing Jerry, I bet he won't even give the kid coaching advice until it is time for college.

Ha, that's the funniest thing I've heard all day! You don't think Jerry is writing all of his kid's workouts right now? You're nuts.

badadadada wrote:

Ha, that's the funniest thing I've heard all day! You don't think Jerry is writing all of his kid's workouts right now? You're nuts.

I doubt he is involved. Most professionals (coaches/athletes) try to stay out of their kids' way. Watch the ESPN special on the Manning brothers. Plus, while Jerry was a good college runner, he wasn't a pro himself. It's not like he has crazy genetics that his kid is sure to inherit.

FWIW, Jerry's wife would kick his arse if he tried to coach his son.

hayward102 wrote:

Jerry Schumacher's freshman son ran an 8:36 3000m last night at the Centennial Invitational in Oregon. I believe that is the #2 all-time freshman time in Oregon. It will be interesting to see his development over the next 3+ years.

Interesting. Similar ability to Henrik Ingebrigtsens little brother.

You must one of those dip$hits that has to convert a 1500 meter performance to a mile time to make sense of it.

jjjjj wrote:

8:36 3k converts by 1.08x to 9:17.3 (national class record, discounting Verzbicas, is about a 9:01-2 by Krahn). Outstanding freshman time and with that coaching, he will likely be running faster at the end of the season but more importantly very fast in college.