1600m potential?

Probably 4:20 if you really run a blazing time...

You need to provide more information if you want a serious answer. Age/grade, running history, weekly mileage, recent workouts you've performed, how many more opportunities you'll have to race 1600m, etc.

Sorry lol totally vague description

Junior in High School

From maybe the 2nd week of january to the middle of march all i was doing was hard swim workouts, averaged about and hour to two hours in the pool a day.

I started my season off with a 2:10 800m on March 26th

2 days later i ran a 2:08 800m

Got maybe 10 days of training and ran my first 1600m race of the season at 4:47

a week later we i ran a 4:35.

Then 3 days later ran 4:33 closed in a 63 last lap, went out 4:40 pace and negative splitted the last 800m, and on the same day i ran a 2:02 800m

Just yesterday i ran sub 4:30 for the first time with a 4:29 (also negative splitted the last 800m) and came back 3hours later to run a 2:01

Just want to know if its maybe possible to run under 4:25

Dr. Jack Daniels says your 2:01 800m is equivalent to a 4:27.7 mile which is equivalent to a slightly faster 1600m (which is what - 9 meters shorter than a mile) so that puts you in the 4:26s.

runnerrr1231 wrote:

Sorry lol totally vague description

Junior in High School

From maybe the 2nd week of january to the middle of march all i was doing was hard swim workouts, averaged about and hour to two hours in the pool a day.

I started my season off with a 2:10 800m on March 26th

2 days later i ran a 2:08 800m

Got maybe 10 days of training and ran my first 1600m race of the season at 4:47

a week later we i ran a 4:35.

Then 3 days later ran 4:33 closed in a 63 last lap, went out 4:40 pace and negative splitted the last 800m, and on the same day i ran a 2:02 800m

Just yesterday i ran sub 4:30 for the first time with a 4:29 (also negative splitted the last 800m) and came back 3hours later to run a 2:01

Just want to know if its maybe possible to run under 4:25

It's possible. Get some work in at 66 pace and take your shot.

What were your splits for 4:29 and 2:01?

What is your best mile time?

Mr Anderson wrote:

What were your splits for 4:29 and 2:01?

My spilts for the 2:01 were 59.7 61.xx

Splits for the 4:29, first 800m 2:16...secound 800m 2:13

Ev man wrote:

What is your best mile time?

4:29 1600m so like a 4:30.xx mile?

Those are some great improvements throughout the course of a season! I'm a sophomore in high school and, too, feel like I'm just barely scratching the surface of what I'm capable of (currently running 4:39 1600), but certainly with smaller PR's than you! All I can say is that your 1600m time is not at all a reflection of your 800m time; a guy on my team who just ran a 1:59 can only run a 4:46, and another guy who just ran a 1:58 can run a 4:31. Given that you're still improving in the 1600 this late in the season, I think you can easily cut another 2-3 seconds.

Pretty even 800 and 1600 splits - nice!

Too bad you don't have your 400 splits for the mile.

Anyway, why don't you try a 67-67-67-64 approach.

So that puts you at 2:14 through the half and then a 2:11 finish. 3rd lap will be a challenge to maintain that 67 pace but keep focused. If you can cross 3 laps in 3:21 then you've set yourself up and made it a one lap race. Employ a slight pickup for the first 200 of the last lap and then for the last 200, gear up to a raging sprint.

Stay on the inside of lane 1 to the extent you can to avoid running extra distance. Do you have any teammates that are slightly faster than you that you can key off of? Don't skimp on your warmup and include some running near your race pace 5-10 minutes before the race - at least a couple 200s at 33.5 after you've done a solid warmup.

Let us know how it goes. Good luck!

I bet you'll run a 4:22 1600 at the very end of the season, you have been improving dramatically and that shows you haven't quite peaked yet

And of course, run THROUGH and not TO the finish line.

My splits for my last 1600m through 400 were 68-68-68-65 but that plan sounds pretty good, ill try that before my race this friday

Tdodd22 wrote:

I bet you'll run a 4:22 1600 at the very end of the season, you have been improving dramatically and that shows you haven't quite peaked yet

You also need to put into account that i was injured and off of running for a month and half, so i missed all of feb and half of march of no running, just doing hard swim workouts, so we will see if i can get my time down that much

Honestly, after reading your post, if you didn't say you were a sophomore in high school in the second sentence then I would have just assumed that to be the case anyway.

Winstifred wrote:

Honestly, after reading your post, if you didn't say you were a sophomore in high school in the second sentence then I would have just assumed that to be the case anyway.

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