“[T]he forum concludes that $75,000 and $60,000, are appropriate awards to compensate [the same-sex couple] for the emotional suffering they experienced,” wrote Alan McCullough, administrative law judge for Oregon’s Bureau of Labor and Industries in his proposed order.
Has the world gone crazy? This is ridiculous.
Agreed. This judgement is way too soft. What has happened to our judicial system?
In order to reach $135,000, Rachel and Laurel submitted a long list of alleged physical, emotional and mental damages they claim to have experienced as a result of the Kleins’ unlawful conduct.
One of the women, whose name was redacted to protect her privacy, listed 88 symptoms as grounds for compensation. The other, whose name was also redacted, listed 90.
Examples of symptoms include “acute loss of confidence,” “doubt,” “excessive sleep,” “felt mentally raped, dirty and shameful,” “high blood pressure,” “impaired digestion,” “loss of appetite,” “migraine headaches,” “pale and sick at home after work,” “resumption of smoking habit,” “shock” “stunned,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “weight gain” and “worry.”
These people are shameless, greedy fvcks.
This will get thrown out in a higher court. Many LBGT bakeries have refused to do cakes that read "Gay Marriage is Wrong". You can't have it both ways, although the hypocrisy of the left tries to have both sides.
Polly P wrote:
Agreed. This judgement is way too soft. What has happened to our judicial system?
Soft? I wouldn't call the state-sponsored destruction of people's livelihoods "soft" at all.
If the government thinks they are promoting "equality" or "fairness" here, they are wrong. In a truly fair world, everyone would be able to express their beliefs regardless of whether or not they are popular with the state. A system where the state suppresses and punishes beliefs it doesn't agree with in the name of fairness is nothing short of fascism. We shouldn't be funding the government with our hard-earned money if they will take it from us if they disagree with us.
Or they could have respected this person's right not to participate in a service that went against their belief, and gone down the road to the other bakery. Absolutely ridiculous.
There are cases of florists who routinely serve gay clients for all sorts of occasions, only to be sued for not wanting to help with a gay wedding. They aren't discriminating against them for being gay--indeed, they serve them at many other times without problems. It is about not wanting to be involved in something they think contradicts the reality of marriage.
Has the world gone crazy? This is ridiculous.
reader of the forums wrote:
In order to reach $135,000, Rachel and Laurel submitted a long list of alleged physical, emotional and mental damages they claim to have experienced as a result of the Kleins’ unlawful conduct.
One of the women, whose name was redacted to protect her privacy, listed 88 symptoms as grounds for compensation. The other, whose name was also redacted, listed 90.
Examples of symptoms include “acute loss of confidence,” “doubt,” “excessive sleep,” “felt mentally raped, dirty and shameful,” “high blood pressure,” “impaired digestion,” “loss of appetite,” “migraine headaches,” “pale and sick at home after work,” “resumption of smoking habit,” “shock” “stunned,” “surprise,” “uncertainty,” “weight gain” and “worry.”
These people are shameless, greedy fvcks.
Never mind the store vandalism by the Gay Agenda and the damages to the family (whoops, sorry, there is no Gay Agenda).
telecran wrote:
It is about not wanting to be involved in something they think contradicts the reality of marriage.
There is no such thing as "reality" of marriage.
I am disgusted by how the courts will stop at nothing to advance the gay agenda, which DOES exist. These people are vindictive and determined to hurt those who simply believe that they shouldn't be allowed to get "married."
They're willing to bankrupt people over this. They're willing to ruin people's lives over this. The world has indeed gone crazy.
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tracknoob wrote:
Polly P wrote:Agreed. This judgement is way too soft. What has happened to our judicial system?
Soft? I wouldn't call the state-sponsored destruction of people's livelihoods "soft" at all.
If the government thinks they are promoting "equality" or "fairness" here, they are wrong. In a truly fair world, everyone would be able to express their beliefs regardless of whether or not they are popular with the state. A system where the state suppresses and punishes beliefs it doesn't agree with in the name of fairness is nothing short of fascism. We shouldn't be funding the government with our hard-earned money if they will take it from us if they disagree with us.
State-sponsored? WTF are you talking about? If they don't want to go to court, BAKE THEM A FUCKING CAKE. How hard is that? Otherwise be prepared to face the consequences for breKing the law.
Guess what? It turns out discrimination is when you offer your services to certain people and not to others.
No gay bakers offer wedding cakes that read "Gay Marriage is Wrong" to gay couples, so why should they make them for straight couples? It would be a different story if they were refusing to bake a wedding cake for a straight couple.
On the other hand, this bakery is happy to make wedding cakes for straight couples, but not for a gay couple.
Do you not see the difference?
the letter why wrote:
Guess what? It turns out discrimination is when you offer your services to certain people and not to others.
No gay bakers offer wedding cakes that read "Gay Marriage is Wrong" to gay couples, so why should they make them for straight couples? It would be a different story if they were refusing to bake a wedding cake for a straight couple.
On the other hand, this bakery is happy to make wedding cakes for straight couples, but not for a gay couple.
Do you not see the difference?
Going with your logic, the bakery only offers wedding cakes with male-female wedding ornaments. What mental gymnastics will you use this time to rationalize this?
Polly P wrote:
tracknoob wrote:Soft? I wouldn't call the state-sponsored destruction of people's livelihoods "soft" at all.
If the government thinks they are promoting "equality" or "fairness" here, they are wrong. In a truly fair world, everyone would be able to express their beliefs regardless of whether or not they are popular with the state. A system where the state suppresses and punishes beliefs it doesn't agree with in the name of fairness is nothing short of fascism. We shouldn't be funding the government with our hard-earned money if they will take it from us if they disagree with us.
State-sponsored? WTF are you talking about? If they don't want to go to court, BAKE THEM A FUCKING CAKE. How hard is that? Otherwise be prepared to face the consequences for breKing the law.
So a gay-owned bakery should be forced to cater a Westboro event on "Why gays should go to hell" conference, right?
notanidiot332 wrote:
So a gay-owned bakery should be forced to cater a Westboro event on "Why gays should go to hell" conference, right?
How do you link a wedding to a hate event?
How about forcing a tea-party owned business to cater a democratic event on how to neutralize the tea-party?
Since when do bakeries do catering?
the letter why wrote:
Guess what? It turns out discrimination is when you offer your services to certain people and not to others.
Turns out that's totally okay. Turns out my local Thai restaurant has a sign that says "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason." If they ever decided to stop serving me, I would take my business to the other 27 Thai restaurants nearby. I wouldn't sue for $135k in so called emotional damages and encourage vandalizing the store, because I'm not a shameless, entitled, greedy, corrupted monster.
I'm so glad we have liberals in this country.
quickrunner789 wrote:
I am disgusted by how the courts will stop at nothing to advance the gay agenda, which DOES exist. These people are vindictive and determined to hurt those who simply believe that they shouldn't be allowed to get "married."
They're willing to bankrupt people over this. They're willing to ruin people's lives over this. The world has indeed gone crazy.
Really? This "gay agenda" DOES exist? Pray tell, outline it for us.
I wonder why gay people might be vindictive?
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