Stanford Invite - a little sensitive???

Hahaha remember when Oregon wouldn't let Adams State run their home XC meet because they were gonna get whupped by a D2 team? Same thing I bet...

To be fair, of the four guys you listed three don't deserve to be in the meet. All those steeple times would be seeded at the back of the last heat.

you may be correct on the steeple times, but they are better than some of the ncaa (TFRRs documented) times of some of the accepted entries.

Add a 3:49.0 and 3:49.4 for the 1500 that didn't get in from a Non-D1 school, along with a 9:06 steepler, and a 4:28.0 1500 gal.

I know of a 425 girl also not accepted. She looked up 10 accepted girls and 7 of them were slower than that.

Hopefully races are good at SF State!

The rule book actually requires meets accept athletes based on tfrrs marks if meet will count as ncaa qualifier. There is a loophole allowing meets to use speculative marks, but Stanford seems to be abusing that by accepting speculative marks from some teams and only tfrrs marks from other.

This same thing happened two years ago at the Texas Relays. My team (D2, not from Texas) entered athletes with current PR's under 1:50 and 4:06 (full mile) and were both denied. These big meets just don't want Non-D1's sometimes.

Looks like very few NCAA I mid-majors represented as well. A few from the west. Fewer yet from the east. Most entries are from the big 5 conferences, in the distance events at least.

For all the talk at the convention about the danger Track is in and how we all have to work together for what is best for the sport, the big 5 continue to rule and despite their words, don't really care about the rest, be they mid-major DI's or non-DI programs.

It's getting worse, not better.

The entries for the standard invite have no bearing on the state of track and field. This thread is so stupid. There are a million track meets out there, go to them and run.

"Hahaha remember when Oregon wouldn't let Adams State run their home XC meet because they were gonna get whupped by a D2 team? Same thing I bet..."

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I find this comment a bit far fetched. Oregon is year in and year out one of the powerhouses of running. Why would the top running program in the country give a hoot about an Adams State? Maybe this is something that happened 10 years ago, and maybe it had more to do with the field already being too crowded with teams who wanted to run in Eugene. But, let's not let facts get in the way of a second rate runner who is miffed that he couldn't be a water boy on an Oregon team.

To the thousands of young men and women that post every year re: running DI, DII or DIII, let this thread be a lesson to you.

If you run DIII, just run in your DIII meets and quick crying about not being let into the DI meets.

There is plenty of competition in DIII. If you're dominating every DIII race, then maybe some nice meet director will let your DIII a__ in their meet.

Let this also be Exhibit 1 to all those posters that inevitably respond to the above with, 'why do you want to run D1, DX is great!'

Far Fetched wrote:

"Hahaha remember when Oregon wouldn't let Adams State run their home XC meet because they were gonna get whupped by a D2 team? Same thing I bet..."

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I find this comment a bit far fetched. Oregon is year in and year out one of the powerhouses of running. Why would the top running program in the country give a hoot about an Adams State? Maybe this is something that happened 10 years ago, and maybe it had more to do with the field already being too crowded with teams who wanted to run in Eugene. But, let's not let facts get in the way of a second rate runner who is miffed that he couldn't be a water boy on an Oregon team.

Wow---no actual knowledge of the situation, and just throwing out random idea's, but somehow can ridicule someone else. If it was 10 years ago, is the original poster not correct? Quit being a stupid high schooler.

Go home, you're a moron. Do some reading before you get burned again:

So if someone wants to run in a big meet, they have to go to D1 and D1 only? You're viewpoint on this is easily the most laughably funny thing I've read in a while on here. Let me guess, you went to a D1 and got to run at these meets. I'm guessing you were one of the guys towards the back? Must have been fun being in the back (a nobody in D1 ranks), as compared to, at the front in the other divisions (someone among those crowds).

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So if someone wants to run in a big meet, they have to go to D1 and D1 only?

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Yes, exactly! If you want to run DI, then go DI. In most other college sports the divisions mostly compete within themselves. In an attempt to keep meets smaller and more manageable and more interesting to watch, a lot of big meets will and should move to DI exclusivity.

It also makes sense from a promotion standpoint. General fans can relate when Stanford goes up against Cal and Washington and Oregon. It gets watered down when you include The Masters, even if The Masters has some great athletes.

I do think Stanford should make it clear on entries that DI (power 5s especially) will be given heavy preference. This is clearly what has happened. That's fine and probably best for the meet, but when you make a meet open and charge per entry and not by accepted entries it should be clear to smaller schools that the 14:25 5k athlete from the U of Arizona will get preference over the 14:10 athlete from Southern Oregon. Most coaches should already know this though.

They denied kid on our team who made it to NCAA Regionals 10k last year!