In the following events: 800m, 1600m, 3200m, and/or XC 5k.
Furthermore, do college coaches value certain events over others in high schoolers? I imagine the track times typically mean more to them than XC because the distance is always accurate.
In the following events: 800m, 1600m, 3200m, and/or XC 5k.
Furthermore, do college coaches value certain events over others in high schoolers? I imagine the track times typically mean more to them than XC because the distance is always accurate.
Sophomore times aren't all that important. Junior track times and senior XC results are the most important for D1 recruiting. As a junior if you can run sub 1:56, 4:20, 9:20, then make footlocker national championship or place top 5 at your state (depending on state and school classification) as a senior then you will be recruited for D1 colleges.
Depends on the coach, and what they're looking for, a Mid distance runner vs a long distance. However, it's safe to say if you have a fast 800m/1600m time, and are a good cross country runner then many coaches will recruit you.
I went to University of Kansas and a lot of other people around my talent level went to other Big XII schools.
Sophmore year-
1600-5:00
3200-11:00
800-2:05
Senior Year-
1600-4:22
3200-9:35
800-1:58
People in D1 are not as fast as people make them out to be; there are thousands of D1 runners and only 32 Footlocker finalists.
I should have gone Division II if running was my sole focus, but I went to KU because I wanted a good academic experience as well. KU is a major research institution with a good chemistry department and cheap tuition.
Almost every school has a track team, go to the institution that will leave you with minimal debt and a good education. State schools generally have great national reputations.
Good luck.
As a sophomore probably, 1:58, 4:30, 9:30. But as said before, junior times are more important, and you can walk on to a D1 school pretty easily. Those could be your times senior year and you can walk on to a bunch of schools. To get recruited for a potential scholarship you will want to at least hit those times above.
You don't have to be fast at all as a sophomore. Junior year is the big one, if you want to get attention.
br0ski wrote:
As a sophomore probably, 1:58, 4:30, 9:30. But as said before, junior times are more important, and you can walk on to a D1 school pretty easily. Those could be your times senior year and you can walk on to a bunch of schools. To get recruited for a potential scholarship you will want to at least hit those times above.
Not to obsess over the details, but do you mean ALL of those times, or just one of them? I've already run 4:30 this past indoor season, and I'm confident I can get my 3200m down to 9:30 this outdoor season, but I'm not sure about the 1:58. I think 2:00 is realistic for me, but 1:58 might be pushing it.
Thanks everyone. All feedback is greatly appreciated!
You don't need to hit all of them, but if you don't have a 800m time in the 1:54-1:56 range then you need to make up for it with better 3200 and XC results. A lot of runners are recruited based on just one fast event.
Like the above post said, these times aren't exact, and many runners walk onto D1 colleges with slower times, but if you want to get recruited and some scholarship money then the faster the better.
Also there are now 40 footlocker finalist, 10 from each region instead of 8.
Here are UPenn's standards (http://www.pennathletics.com/pdf9/2669789.pdf?ATCLID=209448925&SPSID=8693&SPID=542&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=1700). They're a D1 program that's not elite, but better than average.
Think of the recruit column as junior year track. Think of walk on as senior year track.
Excerpt:
Distance / Recruit / Walk On:
800 / 1:54 / 1:56
1600 / 4:18 / 4:24
3200 / 9:20 / 9:28
So, to be a recruit, you should be close to the walk on times as a soph, then improve to the recruit times as a junior.
anyone wrote:
Here are UPenn's standards (http://www.pennathletics.com/pdf9/2669789.pdf?ATCLID=209448925&SPSID=8693&SPID=542&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=1700). They're a D1 program that's not elite, but better than average.
Think of the recruit column as junior year track. Think of walk on as senior year track.
Excerpt:
Distance / Recruit / Walk On:
800 / 1:54 / 1:56
1600 / 4:18 / 4:24
3200 / 9:20 / 9:28
So, to be a recruit, you should be close to the walk on times as a soph, then improve to the recruit times as a junior.
Penn State has walk on runners that are slower than 4:24/9:28. Getting a scholarship is hard; schools have 12.6 scholarships available for an entire track team and 0 scholarships for XC. Most teams are composed of walk-ons.
Look for a good school with affordable tuition.
I ran times that were comparable to the walk on times and finished in the top third of every race my freshman year (top 1/2 of Big 12 championship). With your times right now you could run on a college team in the fall.
The guys that got scholarships (50%) ran 4:06 in High school and the other ran 9:1X.
high school speedster wrote:
br0ski wrote:As a sophomore probably, 1:58, 4:30, 9:30. But as said before, junior times are more important, and you can walk on to a D1 school pretty easily. Those could be your times senior year and you can walk on to a bunch of schools. To get recruited for a potential scholarship you will want to at least hit those times above.
Not to obsess over the details, but do you mean ALL of those times, or just one of them? I've already run 4:30 this past indoor season, and I'm confident I can get my 3200m down to 9:30 this outdoor season, but I'm not sure about the 1:58. I think 2:00 is realistic for me, but 1:58 might be pushing it.
Thanks everyone. All feedback is greatly appreciated!
I mean if you hit one of those times. But this is also based off of you improving next year. As a junior to get recruited, you need to be under 4:20 and around 9:15 or under. It seems like you are more of a distance guy than 800 so I wont include that. But even if you run in the 4:20s and 9:20s, D1 teams will give you a look, you will just have to reach out to them.
Those numbers are kind of puzzling. 4:24 and 9:28 are not that uncommon. But 4:24 and 9:28 and still able to be admitted to UPenn based on academics? How many kids nationwide can run those times and still make the 12% who is admitted?
An answerer wrote:
Sophomore times aren't all that important. Junior track times and senior XC results are the most important for D1 recruiting. As a junior if you can run sub 1:56, 4:20, 9:20, then make footlocker national championship or place top 5 at your state (depending on state and school classification) as a senior then you will be recruited for D1 colleges.
Depends on the coach, and what they're looking for, a Mid distance runner vs a long distance. However, it's safe to say if you have a fast 800m/1600m time, and are a good cross country runner then many coaches will recruit you.
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academics? wrote:
Those numbers are kind of puzzling. 4:24 and 9:28 are not that uncommon. But 4:24 and 9:28 and still able to be admitted to UPenn based on academics? How many kids nationwide can run those times and still make the 12% who is admitted?
There are a lot more boys that can hit the times vs make the grades. If you look at Penn's team, it's pretty clear that they have about 1 guy per year that hits the recruit times.
I'd also say that most DI programs I have first hand experience with have a walk on cutoff at 4:20 / 9:20 and they're pretty darn strict about it. I'm talking about programs that regularly qualify for XC Nats.