Are these times good enough to walk on to a mid-major D1?

Ok so you probably could depending on the school but get that 1600 times to around 4:35-4:30 and our 800-1:55 and that could do it our 800 time will be the most attractive to them if you run 1:55. I ran 1:54 mid and got to walk on to the state school but I was also winning races that will be another key if they see you aren't running the fastest times but are winning your races they will be more attracted to you, the fact that you sprinted for the first two years and have done low mileage is gonna be a big selling point. Good luck and I hope it works out for you, running in college is a great experience and I wish i could have another year.

Not running an open 800 yet might hurt you as splits are something that can easily be lied about. Not saying that you are, but it is definitely better to have a definitive time from a meet that the coach can look it.

As for times, I would definitely look to hit 1:57 or 4:25 at least. However it is possible to ask the coach for a time trail after training over the summer.

Your open times aren't really fast enough for you to make an impact anywhere yet. "Not trying to kill your spirit, just an opportunity for you to improve"

You 800m time is the closest thing you have right now to what mid majors need on their team. You need to find a way to run some open 800's if you want to get looked at.

Have you tried just reaching out to the coaches who you are interested in competing for? Sometimes a coach is willing to let take a chance on a kid simply because he's determined and he wants to be part of his program. There is a lot to be said for loyalty.

If you run better than 1:58 in a real 800 - no relay split, and have decent 1600 and 400 times, you should be able to walk on to some mid majors. It depends on the coach's preference and the team budget. Not sure I would consider Cincinnati to be a mid-major though.

You should drop the 800 and pick up the 3200. With 1:58 speed and closing your 4:44 in 60 you should be able to go sub 9:30 by the end of outdoor.

I'd take a sub 9:30 guy with 52 speed.

If you really want to run D1 - go talk to a coach and try and walk on to a D1 team. The first year will be really rough, but it seems you've got some decent talent (especially with the 52).

Hi Tommy.

ARE YOU READY TO GO GO GADGET????

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Sadly D1 coaches don't care about your ceiling they want results now. I would strongly recommend going D2 for 2 years to adapt to collegiate running then transfer. You can get your general education requirements out of the way then focus on your major at a D1 place and compete against the best of collegiate athletics.

iwasyousorta wrote:

Sadly D1 coaches don't care about your ceiling they want results now.

Not true for coaches that do a good job building a strong team that doesn't need to rely on freshman.

I got books paid for me to run at a local Mid-Major school with the following times:

800 - 2:03

1600 - 4:35

3200 - 9:43

Go D3. Those times will get you on the bus at most D3 schools, but you'd still have to improve to become a stud. My kid's D3 school has 2 freshman under 4:30 indoors this year and 2 upper classmen under 4:20...and his school is certainly no D3 powerhouse. There are many academically fantastic D3 schools with great track/xc programs. Too many kids think that all they have to do is show up at a D1 program and the talent will rub off on them.

Don't waste your opportunities or dreams...if you're going to become a great runner, you don't need to risk burnout or bailout at a D1 program that is over your head...you can get a great education in the meantime.

I don't get the excitement of running for a d1 school if you aren't a national caliber runner. Most xc/track college invites have runners from all divisions so you'll have plenty of chances to race d1, d2, d3, jc, naia runners. Magic doesn't happen just because you're wearing a d1 uniform. Most average high school runners I know that went to try to walk on at a d1 school don't make it. Even if you do get a chance you'll be the slowest guy at practice everyday.

If you really want to run go to a jc for 2 years and see how much you improve, then pick a school to transfer to. Don't go d1 unless you're d1 caliber.

Real World Advice wrote:

I don't get the excitement of running for a d1 school if you aren't a national caliber runner. Most xc/track college invites have runners from all divisions so you'll have plenty of chances to race d1, d2, d3, jc, naia runners. Magic doesn't happen just because you're wearing a d1 uniform. Most average high school runners I know that went to try to walk on at a d1 school don't make it. Even if you do get a chance you'll be the slowest guy at practice everyday.

If you really want to run go to a jc for 2 years and see how much you improve, then pick a school to transfer to. Don't go d1 unless you're d1 caliber.

I don't get it either. There is no glory about DI, unless you are elite. Why would anyone want to 1. be on a team that never has no chance to even finish well or possibility to build a program and even if they do happen to get really good, they will never have a chance to make it out of regional.

2. Why individually would you put yourself through 4 years of being that guy that is lapped and gets demolished. Or else you run DI but run a DIII schedule.

I mean, seriously, track and cross country are hard and mid-DI athletic departments treat the sport like crap. There are much better things to do with your time, than get your teeth kicked in every weekend. There is really no glory in college for track and cross country, especially at a bad DI school.

Your coach is on crack, DI is not the best place for you.

DIII or NJCAA is the best place, you will have all the competition you can handle at this level. Keep looking at schools, there are all kinds of colleges at every level.

I would start with a list of things you are looking for in a college, then narrow it based on where you can run, if that is important to you. Maybe you value a SEC large college atmosphere over running, that fine, running may not be in the cards for you.