Can a 10 flat make the Rutgers XC team?

11:00 could get you a scholarship. Look at their current roster.

yea you would have no trouble making the team

as far as the coach not responding - that is par for the course - how they keep their job is amazing. Pretty much they are stealing money from the school

Nope. They have the numbers listed on their website. The coach wants 9:30 to walk on. Check out the running club if it is still there. I ran with them a few semesters. A couple 16:xx-17:xx HS XC guys on the team during in my time. Some decent areas to run around the New Brunswick/Highland Park too.

You a dude or a chick?

lrcrealist wrote:

You a dude or a chick?

What do you think?

RU Screwed? wrote:

Nope. They have the numbers listed on their website. The coach wants 9:30 to walk on.

Here's their info re walk-on, scholarship, and "target recruit" standards:

I seriously wonder how many recruits they bring in every year who have even met the walk-on standards. Any? (I'm serious: any?) Their standards in the throws are ridiculous--and hilarious. Well, I guess it doesn't hurt to dream...

I should add that I know, like, and respect Mike Mulqueen. I would bet that the stated standards are strongly affected by policies of the department or higher. A check of the women's standards (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/rutu/sports/w-track/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/ScholarshipWalkOnStandards.pdf), which are still strong but bear a bit more of a relationship to reality, suggests that Title IX may be in play here.

I was interested in running for Rutgers too. I emailed the coach and he basically said keep working harder. He sent me a sheet with walk on times and I think those times are pretty outrageous. I don't understand why though because most of the guys on the team are 16 min 5k guys.

kibitzer wrote:

I seriously wonder how many recruits they bring in every year who have even met the walk-on standards. Any? (I'm serious: any?) Their standards in the throws are ridiculous--and hilarious. Well, I guess it doesn't hurt to dream...

What I alway assumed was that they had very few slots for walk-ons (probably almost none considering the times demanded) and the team seemed to be made up of guys he recruited himself. I'm sure the school spends very little on the program which is probably why the team is so small. I think back when I attended they only had 7 or 8 guys on the XC team, which sounds insane given the possibilities of injuries.

Their recruiting is pretty poor given the wealth of talent that comes out of the state. I've seen the topic discussed for over a decade on various running forums. It seems not much has changed.

Just join the GSTC.

You'll probably run faster with them, anyway.

www.gardenstatetc.org

NJRunnerNJ wrote:

Just join the GSTC.

You'll probably run faster with them, anyway.

http://www.gardenstatetc.org

This^

Not only will you probably run faster, but you'll get more personal attention, a great coaching support system AND you get to run in a lot of the same collegiate meets that RU would be running in.

GSTC was founded by former RU track/XC guys anyway. They know the deal.

Good luck.

These standards show two things:

1) Rutgers coaching staff has no realistic assessment of where they stand right now as a program

2) Rutgers coaching staff has no realistic assessment of how few HS kids are actually hitting those marks

Put those two things together, and it just makes them look silly. They might as well ask for a "zillion kajillion dollars" a la Dr Evil.

R U rah rah R U rah rah

I know (am acquaintances of, not just know of) multiple All Americans / Big Ten champs who didn't meet those walk-on standards coming out of high school.

WTF is the person who made that list smoking?