Weber State Opinion

The coaches are snakes, Ogden is the ghetto of Utah, and Weber men/women will be hard pressed to EVER make NCAA nationals again. Questions?

One question: How do you know? How can you validate your statements? If that is true I would like to know, but with the success they have I would wonder how accurate your statements are. Just wondering.

Their Grilling program is unparalleled. I have gone far on my doctorate in Charcoal. My dissertation on theoretical aspects of heat transfer using A-1/Worcestershire sauce mixtures is often quoted.

I enjoy Utah in some parts, but Ogden is a creepy town. Notorious crimes have happened there (the Hi-Fi murders) and it seemed like there were desperate looking people wandering the streets at night.

As I was only there for a few days while running the Ogden Marathon, I'm not as intimately familiar as some may be, but my experience was lovely. The campus is gorgeous, as was the marathon. You will never want for good running, with trails beginning on campus. Ogden itself does seem a bit weird, but the reputation was established generations ago, and it isn't the same. Downtown is one street, but it is only ~45 minutes from SLC, probably less on the commuter train.

I know a faculty member there (female) who does say that her sex is sometimes an issue, with basic respect and the patriarchy inherent to most religions, but especially Mormons. It was historically a commuter school, but it seems to be taking the proper strides to change that reputation. I have no idea about track/cc.

Not sure what event you compete in, but Coach Pilkington is a great distance coach. I've coaches against him and have all the respect in the world for him.

Weber is often a ranked cross country program. They seem to get the most out of the athletes who come there. Pilkington has consistently coached athletes to the NCAA champs in cross and outdoor track. Have a national tradition in the steeplechase and other events. I have heard the trails are great to run on.

Utah high school XC is ridiculous - have to assume most of the utah schools will continue to benefit from good talent coming their way.

South Ogden and North Ogden are 18 and 19 respectively on the top 40 safest cities in Utah list compiled by safewise.com. South Ogden had a violent crime rate per 1,000 of only .77 as compared to Provo that had 1.27 and St. George which had 2.05. To compare the number to the rest of Utah, Provo ranked #40, Orem #39, and St. George was #38. Take that information for what it is obviously but I think its a strong indicator that Ogden is not the "ghetto" as you so eloquently put it.

Yeah Ogden has its parts that may be a bit sketchy but most growing cities of this size will have those places...but for every sketchy place there are some pretty dang nice places as well. Ogden has the junction which has indoor skydiving and indoor wave riding, it has historic 25th street which was voted one of the best streets in the U.S., and the trail system is phenomenal and only getting better with increased funding and attention being paid to it.

The coaching at Weber State is very strong. At one point Weber held the NCAA D1 record in both the mens and the womens steeplechase, rather impressive. Weber has consistently made NCAA All-Americans and hasn't had to bank its success on 1 or even 2 athletes to recruit, rather a continuing tradition of excellence.

Mormons, contrary to 3/4's of this websites posters, are not cultists and are not crazy or anything like that. Respect them and they will show that same respect to you

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Mormons are completely different people. Any non-mormon living in Utah can tell you that. Weber's team is 95-100% mormon so if you're into playing board games on a Friday/Saturday night go right ahead. Also, when was the last time the men were ranked?? Not a dig, serious question...

Ogden is your typical Utah Mormon town: Dull and creepy. Weber State is a mediocre school at best with a very high acceptance rate. The bright spot I would say is their women's running teams. They have a history of doing well at the conference level and even have had a few individuals making it to the NCAA and even the Olympics (Lindsay Allen??? in the steeple in Beijing). They get some pretty talented recruits on the girls side and do well in developing them. So if you're a girl and your Mormon, you will do very well. But if that's the case, why not go directly to BYU?

Even with their hotshot new recruiter they haven't signed a lot of impact runners. Maybe Pilkington can turn them into something but he certainly hasn't done much with his superstar women pickups such as Summer Harper or Ellie Child. To go from a top place at nationals in 2012 to barely getting top 20 at the Wisconsin meet this year is a massive indictment on the incompetence of the coaching staff in Ogden.

As for the men, even in their peak race they still finished behind a second-rate Utah team having a bad day. That was with their top 4 runners all being 7th year seniors! Either way, you deserve better than to waste five years of your life in Ogden with the Mexicans and Mormons.

So much negativity...how much actual knowledge or facts to back any of this up? I'm just curious as to where this knowledge is coming from. How successful were most of you in college and where did you attend to run? Was it Weber State? Or, how successful is your program that it would seem a lot of you are coaching with your ability to talk down on their program.

I will point out that their acceptance rate is 100%. In other words, don't expect to be the dumbest kid on campus...

Isaac, quit creating threads to create 'buzz' for your non-buzz worthy team.

To be fair, Summer Harper did win the Conference Championship as a Freshman and then WENT ON HER MISSION. How is she supposed to have done well this year when she's out of the country brainwashing foreigners????

I actually really enjoy living with and around Mexicans, they have brought some life, color and tradition to Ogden (thank GOD), it's the Mormons who are the problem for me.

Didn't run there, but here is my 2 cents.

They seem to have a knowledgeable and experienced, coaching staff, beautiful campus up against the mountains, running trails everywhere that start at campus, and their facilities are top 10 in the country. Obviously at altitude.

The education you will get depends on your field of study, so look into that as their academic credentials aren't stellar in some fields.

If you want to go to school in Utah (some like it, some would never) Weber St. is probably the best choice. However, in the mountain region, I'd pick CU Boulder as tops followed by NAU but Weber is top 5 in that area.

They will continue to benefit from strong in-state recruiting. Utah is putting out bunches of very good HS runners.

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Surely you're not serious, SUU is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Weber as a program academically and athletically. Has Weber ever produced a runner who could run 13:18/27:27 after being a 4:19/9:26 runner in HS? Didn't think so....

Whats a weber state?

A lot of people in this thread here need to get out of Utah. The facilities are not top 10 in the country, you need to get out more and see the world, Isaac.