HOW TO TELL YOUR COACH THAT HE'S TERRIBLE?? (WORST COACH EVER)

I'm in a similar situation.

All you have to do is keep studying and do your workouts!

Make sure you give him all the volumes of Jack Daniels running formula lol!

For what purpose?

(1) Revenge

or

(2) To improve things for future runners at your school?

My answer would depending on your purpose.

Instead of going on a public crusade, why don't you gather a group of teammates and do your own aerobic training?

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Don't tell him anything.

You're the one that decided he was 'your coach'. The school district can pay the clown but cannot (and is not trying to) force you to have anything to do with him.

When I was your age I followed a Lydiard book. Real similar to Daniels in many ways. I had to put my own personal touches, of course, similar in ways to Rosa and the Italian school, as it turns out. I did exactly what worked for me.

Picked the distances raced (mainly 10k although I knew I was better at 15k-HM, which were more rare back then);

Decided the frequency of racing (about 5 per year, maybe a couple more not taken too seriously);

Controlled my mileage completely on my own (65-70 most of the time, about 75 max);

Started speedwork on my own schedule (10 weeks out from peak, none in base phase).

You can do the same. No one is causing you to be coached by this joker, or be in any way involved with his program but yourself. The above program I reffered to was followed from sophmore year on by me. At no point did the school board or anyboody else attempt to stop me or even change what I was doing. The same would happen to you if you did the same as I did.

I never met my HS track coach. While it's too late for you to not meet, you certainly have the option of severing the relationship right now. Tonight! You don't have to say anythinhg. I didn't tell anyone what I was doing. I just did it and they never knew. Do the same, young man!

sounds like your coach probably knows he's not doing a good job already... he doesn't care. telling him that he's a bad coach isn't going to make any difference.

Bro just quit the team. Train yourself like the poster above me said.

I had shitty coaches in my high school. My first high school coach (freshman and sophomore) cared about his son getting a running scholarship to Stanford. He also coached against me. Looking back, I should of chew him out and quit the team. I didn't because I didn't know what to do in terms of training.

My junior year XC coach was garbage. He was self centered and he cared about his full time job. End of the season, I got into a disagreement and I called him out on social media. I got Saturday school for it, but to this day I don't give a single F*** about it. Oh and the coach got fired.

Before junior year track season, I was following Jack Daniels' 800m plan. It was working at first. I went from 2:18 to 2:12. I also pr'd in the 400 twice in 1 hour. My PR at the time was 62 seconds. In the 800, my first lap split was 61. Ran an open 400 and got 59.47. After that I got injured with bad shin splints.

During junior year track season, the girl’s XC coach decided to coach the boy’s team. I got into so many arguments with him. I could have exploded when I argued with him, but I didn't want any witnesses. Personalities didn't match. I was competitive and he was laid back. He was laid back that I could follow Daniel's plan, but I was too injured. His hardest workout was 4 x 400 with 5 min rest. I ended up running with the sprinters. Yeah I argued with him in order to make me run with them.

Thank God that my senior year coach is great!

Therefore, if you don’t like your coach then quit and train yourself.

Coaches don't get paid for pre-season conditioning.

The little coaches do get is not worth the hours they put in. Often coaches spend more on their team then their stipend. I do.

I have a training plan, meet multiple times a week and kids still don't follow it. They know better and mostly don't run or do their own thing on the days the do run. (I mean how is a tempo run going to make them better? They need all out intervals in January... Or so their thought process goes). What the hell do I know?

So these kind of things I read on here I have little sympathy for. As for you, some kids are responders. Some no matter what you do will never improve. Just the way it is.

I think lots of people think their high school coach is awful. I know I did when I was in school. After running in college for a coach who actually was terrible, I realized that my high school coach actually was pretty good.

You think you build up lactic acid when you run? Who's the clueless one kiddo?

Powerpoint

perfect scenario to run primary workouts (per your formula)

in AM and do coaches workouts after school.

tight lips about his merits as a coach or no (he does have control over meet entries etc.).

You control your "destiny" .

fortunately I had great coaches during HS - although all not necessarily well versed in training methods - they were 'flexible'. Same deal all through college. Coupla brothers who couldn't say and haven't said the same. Thrived, nevertheless, by following above.

College coaches are better.

Haha good one

OREGONNNN wrote:

College coaches are better.

You thought you knew more than your coach, but you went out in 61 in a 2:12 race with a 71 second lap. Enough said.

If you really want to help out the program, have your parents and parents of your teammates talk to the athletic director about the need for a new coach who knows what they are doing. Normally, I am all for doing things yourself, but when it comes to the firing of a coach, it is very tough for ADs to listen to HS students and act. It doesn't happen and usually that makes sense. If you and your teammates want to join the meeting, that is fine but the meeting cannot be an emotional one.

Reasons that he should be fired should be addressed in the meeting. Saying stuff like "he doesn't know what lactic acid is" That gets you no where. Same with tactics and general strategy as that is always up for disagreement as everyone has their own way of doing things. If he does not attend practice, is not coaching, etc. Those are things that are better to bring up to show that he is not doing his job.

He may have some rebuttals to this (in a separate meeting) but if what you say is true, you at least are trying to help.

Also, if you are not going to do the above, trying to show up the coach by telling him workouts to do or giving him a book is just going to work against you and he'll be more of a dick to you since that is how he will feel you are treating him.

Majority of high school coaches are not good... It's just the way it is.. They take it on to get some extra $. It's much easier for a distance runner to do his or her own training on the side. Research and work hard yourself to reach more elite levels if you have the right genetics. Best of luck

I do not know one coach that "does it for the money." There is so little there it is not worth the time.