IS CALEB NDIKU INSANE?

A sub 8:00 full two is equal to a 12:44. When is the last time someone ran 12:44 in an oft run event? Let alone the two mile?

DEFUDGE93 wrote:

Does this guy really think he can run two sub 4 minute miles back to back with a 7:31 and 12:59 pb? Think about it, komen hit 3000m in 7:27 on the dot en route to the 2 mile world record. He can't even run sub 7:30 let alone en route in a 2 mile..

It's called improving

canova has intimated caleb was good for ~ 12'50 this year in an ideal race

8'00 is another matter

I like it. It's better than Mo Farah being in 3:28/26:3x shape and refusing to go for a fast 5000m time.

Caleb Ndiku dyes his hair bright colors, dances after winning and does a front-double bodybuilder pose. This kind of antics is exactly what athletics needs. So is saying he will run sub 8, whether he really can or not.

And there are a lot of people who can. All-time 800-to-5000 GOAT Augustine Choge would have a shot at it.

The sub-8 two mile days are long gone.

HardLoper wrote:

It's called improving

+1

And pacing...

Caleb has that thing that many east African athletes used to have. No preconceived beliefs limiting his idea of the possible.

Komen had it. Geb had it, sort of still does. Kip Keino certainly had it.

Back in Keino's day, western runners filled themselves with numbers, ideas of clock and time. Keino simply figured out the patterns of races, and ran fast where everyone else slowed down. Worked pretty good. Sure, he learned western ideas and techniques, and used them, but he was an original out-of -the-box thinker.

Mo Farah, if he is still able to train, compete and kick at the highest level, will have his hands full with Caleb in the next couple years. I look forward to it.

Let's say Mo hits the front with 5-600 to go in the 5000 in the worlds, looking to control it. What does he do if Caleb goes by with 300 to go? Or if Caleb is leading and won't let Mo go by with 500 to go? LET ALONE the pack or Ethiopian studs and/or Rupp on their heels?

When yoi said insane, I thought it was in th literal sense. I was wondring as to what coukd have happened to his mental balance/health.

He's 22.

You really think he can't improve 3 seconds in the 3K in eight years?

I know that doesn't mean he'll get the 2 mile WR, but he won't be far off.

Caleb is great! Great runner and great for the sport.

Too many elites - especially Americans - respond to the question about future goals with a typical response of "I just want to stay uninjured and improve." This is everyone's goal. Caleb has a fire in the belly and shows it. He gives us something to look forward to this track season. Competition, rivals, fast times, etc. Also, as far as I can tell he is somewhat humble - meaning that he understands his success is contingent on things outside of himself. Plus, who doesn't want someone to take down Mo?

Ndiku can and will take down Farah in every event from 1m to 7km! He won't get the 2mi WR, but he will earn the respect of everyone on these message boards for attempting it and coming within +- 5s of the WR.

False.Mo just ran a record breaking less than 6 months ago.

yyy wrote:

The sub-8 two mile days are long gone.

I think someone who is young and has run 3:29 for 1500 and 12:59 for 5000 is exactly the kind of guy that should thinking he has potential to run 7:58 for two miles.

Except he's actually run 7:30 for his PB and ran 7:31 indoors behind when Galen Rupp ran 7:30 in stockholm 2013. He's also run 3:29 for 1500 so he has a huge amount of speed for it. I doubt he's gonna break 8 minutes but he could go really close to 8:00-8:02.

False.

Mo just ran a record breaking less than 6 months ago.

yyy wrote:

The sub-8 two mile days are long gone.

Hahaha OK? But Mo Farah ran 8:07 so I wouldn't say that's false when he was barely within 10 seconds of the world record.

He is not 22.

He is a great example of age cheating, and why they do it. Won the World Cross Country Championships for juniors at age 17. Does anyone really believe that?

If you were running against a field of 19 yr olds, it may be possible for a 17-yr-old Kenyan to win against other 17-yr-old Kenyans and 19-yr-old Non-Africans, after all they are usually at the 3:40 / 13:40 level at best.

It would not be impossible for a 17 yr old to run those times (even though NO non-African has ever done it in history), but it would be impossible for a 17-yr-old Kenyan to beat out all the other 19-yr-olds in Africa.

That yr the top 4 runners were from Kenya. They were all clearly 21-24 yrs old.

Everything else people have said still applies though. He should dream big and go after WRs, nobody else is. There was a time when Geb and Komen and Bekele were not WR holders either.

To the guy who said he should take EPO, he is already on it.

Yup.

Most definitely an age cheat. He's 28-30 in reality.

Doped to the eyeballs like most of his competitors. Coached by an Italian I assume?

Popful Mail wrote:

Yup.

Most definitely an age cheat. He's 28-30 in reality.

Doped to the eyeballs like most of his competitors. Coached by an Italian I assume?

Why do you say - publicly - that he is a cheater, especially when you provide no evidence? It's degrading and shameful. It is so easy to say this on the message boards but hardly anyone would say this to the same person face-to-face. Provide some basis for these malicious clams.