Perhaps I've introduced significant bias in singling out one runner, but, how do you rank Wilson Kipketer among the greatest men's 800m runners?
Perhaps I've introduced significant bias in singling out one runner, but, how do you rank Wilson Kipketer among the greatest men's 800m runners?
He was a great steeplechaser. I'm not sure he ever did an 800 though.
TAA wrote:
He was a great steeplechaser. I'm not sure he ever did an 800 though.
I'm sure when you read of St. Augustine of Hippo, the lesser known St. Augustine of Canterbury comes to your mind first.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_Kipketer(800m runner)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_Boit_Kipketer(steeplechaser)
Both had a WR and some medals so maybe he should be considered notable.
Anyways...
1. Ryun
2. Rudy
3. Coe
4. Juantorena
5. Doubell
6. Kipketer
Flame away...
Nayagebu wrote:
Both had a WR and some medals so maybe he should be considered notable.
You are right and both above-mentioned Kipketers are very highly notable.
Unrelated directly, but Rudisha is obviously #1? He holds the WR.
I do believe Kipketer had the WR as well at one point however.
Nayagebu wrote:
Both had a WR and some medals so maybe he should be considered notable.
Anyways...
1. Ryun
2. Rudy
3. Coe
4. Juantorena
5. Doubell
6. Kipketer
Flame away...
Hey ventolin!
1.rudisha
2 kipketer
3 Cruz
Coach... wrote:
Hey ventolin!
when will you dweebs learn
Ventolin would never put Coe near the top 3... he believes the track in Florence was short.
winterrunner101 wrote:
Unrelated directly, but Rudisha is obviously #1? He holds the WR.
I do believe Kipketer had the WR as well at one point however.
He took a good chunk off the world record and held it for quite a while which is why he's more known than the "other" Wilson Kipketer, whose record didn't last as long.
Nayagebu wrote:
Both had a WR and some medals so maybe he should be considered notable.
Anyways...
1. Ryun
2. Rudy
3. Coe
4. Juantorena
5. Doubell
6. Kipketer
Flame away...
What Ryun number one?!!! And Rudisha not even on the list.
How can you possibly beat the only sub 1:41, leading from gun to wire in an Olympic Final? Who on this list could possibly beat this. If they could, why wouldn't they go out to the track and run that time themselves?
Are you assuming they held back or were slowed down by rabbits? Don't give me that cinders crap.
Uh Rudy = Rudisha
Nayagebu wrote:
Both had a WR and some medals so maybe he should be considered notable.
Anyways...
1. Ryun
2. Rudy
3. Coe
4. Juantorena
5. Doubell
6. Kipketer
Flame away...
Yikes. Obviously, Ryun had a lot of potential and one great season in 1966, but that's giving an awful lot of weight to potential and one season.
Doubell is another surprise on this list -- one great race, notable largely as a counterexample to the idea that high altitude necessarily impairs 800m performance, especially for sea-level runners.
I would have thought that Rudisha, Kipketer, and Coe might lead the list. Some old-timers might add Snell to the mix, and youngsters might include whoever happens to be running fast these days.
Kipketer is the proof that the 800 is purely about time. Nobody really cares who can do 3 x sub-1:46 with the best tactics, otherwise you'd be asking about Nils Schumann.
Therefore Kipketer's rank is #2.
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John Wesley Harding wrote:
Top 5 800m greats chronologically:
Peter Snell
Sebastian Coe
Joaquim Cruz
Wilson Kipketer
David Rudisha
I think Rudisha's #1 but these guys are all so credentialed.
What about that Russian guy who beat Kipketer at the Olympics and ruled in the early/mid 2000s?
that other guy wrote:
What about that Russian guy who beat Kipketer at the Olympics and ruled in the early/mid 2000s?
I found his name. His name is Yuriy Borzakovskiy. I think he ran 1:42 at age 18!
Kipketer the Cheater was a fine doper. 800m is doper city. I'll bet every one of the top 10 of all time was doped!
dopinglou wrote:
Kipketer the Cheater was a fine doper. 800m is doper city. I'll bet every one of the top 10 of all time was doped!
Applying whatever credential you used to determine that, do you actually think that any other frequently-run mid-distance or distance event is different?
*in before someone comes on here trying to tell us Jim Ryun could have run some time that he didn't run.