Considering becoming a vegan for purely health reasons, but it's difficult to see through all the dogma.

If it is pure health reasons, I would suggest vegetarianism or pescetarianism rather than straight veganism. It is easier to keep than a pure vegan diet, and it is easier to get healthy and balanced diets when you can add in dairy and fish.

That way you can eat fish, dairy products, eggs, insect products (honey, etc) as well as your fruits, veggies, legumes, grains, etc.

shut up and LET ME THINK! wrote:

. I just care about having an optimal diet for long-term health.

Veganism may actually be the best diet

Where are you going to get your K2? Natto? You better love that slime. Where are you going to get your A if your body doesn't do a good job of converting beta-carotene (as is the case with many). Where are you going to get your long-chain omega-3s? Where are you going to get your B-12? Taurine? Creatine? And on and on and on...

You just don't become vegan for health reason. You're confusing it with strict vegetarianism. I mean, how is not using any leather clothes and goods related to your health really?

All diets that start with do not eat this or that, have OCD written all over them.

Avoid them. Be normal. Much better.

i know 3 people personally that were vegetarian or vegan for at least a decade that have now introduced some meat back into their diet for health reasons. it's really hard to get everything you need when you're intentionally eliminating whole categories of food stuffs. The reason you're having trouble finding logical scientific arguments to support your case is because your hypothesis is wrong.

less meat than the standard american diet is probably healthier, taking that to zero doesn't make it healthiest.

I've been vegetarian for years now, and I think that's the way to go. You get to eat a lot more things, while still cutting out meat. There are a lot of ways to get protein, and imitation meat gets better and closer to the real thing every day. Added bonus, you're not usually associated by others with those PETA wackos.

Yasssssss. Science is in.

https://youtu.be/EqKNfyUPzoU

To everyone who says 'moderation' I just just mention the new Canada food guide. Where they spell it out very clearly. Moderation is now no more than 1/8th of your plate should be animal products and oils aren't food. If you're gonna eat a whole chicken leg then ud better eat 3 large potatoes. 3 slices of bread. And a 3 cups of cooked kale and spinach with that. Otherwise you're not eating a well balanced meal.

Avoid refined oils, animal flesh and their secretions, and nuts and seeds and avacados. Too much grease.

Only thing worse for you than constantly having grease in the blood is missing calories. So focus on eating starchy foods. Grains, beans, potatoes. Garnish with cooked greens.

Chilli served with bread. Pasta with a marinara or lentil ragut. Hummus and pita. Tofu, rice and sweet potato teriyaki. Toast with jam. Banana pancakes. Mashed potatoes. Rice and potatoes and peas masala. Piles of fruit.

Sprinkle frozen pre cooked greens on everything. They blanch (dip into boiling water momentarily) veggies before freezing them. Washes the field worker slaves poopies off nicely. No ecoli for this guy so I'll pass on the Romain lettuce salads thanks. No calories anyways. The ultimate junk food.

Do a calorie check once in a while. If you're lacking add a little grease to your diet. (Do less miles? That's crazy) My favs are donuts, pie, fries, oily chow mein, a pnut butter sandwich. Some sorta store bought greasy sauce/dip/mayo. Arguably these things are worse than a bit of chicken. And they're right. I just lost the taste for it. I eat junk during peak weeks where I'm over 60mpw and after long runs. So once or twice a week.

Don't forget to eat a handful of walnuts everyday for ur essential omega3.

Don't even worry about proteins. As long as you're eating most of ur calories via real food you won't be missing. If meat made muscle,everyone would be swole. Instead their fat cells got swole.

Watch this video.

https://youtu.be/-CI_PExEkB0

Lol yea I don't go down on the non veggie ladies anymore. Hmmmm ex pac ecoli rectum bacteria migration to the vagina. Makes me think of a fresh mountain breeze rolling over a meadow of wildflowers by the river.

go vegan if you want to age rapidly, create GI issues, have mental problems, teeth problems, and have harm your athletic performances.

soccerxc wrote:

I've been vegetarian for years now, and I think that's the way to go. You get to eat a lot more things, while still cutting out meat. There are a lot of ways to get protein, and imitation meat gets better and closer to the real thing every day. Added bonus, you're not usually associated by others with those PETA wackos.

Why do you need imitation meat? Or dairy? Must naturally crave the real thing...

It's fine if you want to be a vegan, just don't be strict and make sure and eat some meat and fish a couple times a week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFcFHnmupQc