Who is the CA State Meet held in the arm pit of the State?

might have something to do with accessibility. Humbolt in the northern part of the state is FAR from population centers like LA and San Diego in the southern part of the state.

tahoe: idk, not the best option

yosemite: a national park? not gonna happen

kings canyon: same

sierra foothills: would be good actually. near sacramento, central location

central coast: would be good but who would host? only biggish cities are santa barbara and san luis obispo

humboldt: way too far north

shasta: too far north

beauty isnt what xc is about. you gotta think about facilities, transportation, costs, ease of access, weather, etc. fresno is good for all of that.

It could be a lot of people. But....

I'm going to bet on Jesse Ventura.

A few general considerations:

- the course must be 5K and be able to accommodate ~200 runners

- the course area must have enough parking for teams and spectators (not a trivial thing)

- the area must have enough hotel rooms for out of area runners and spectators (also not a trivial thing)

- finally, perhaps most important, there must be a local organizing committee that actually bids for the meet. I believe that a Bakersfield group bid a few years ago and about 10 years ago another group from near Sacramento bid (however, they hadn't even built the course yet at the time of the bid).

For what it's worth, Fresno is centrally located and has history going for it. Also, for many years the city did not charge the CIF for use of Woodward Park (not sure if this is still true).

reed wrote:

tahoe: idk, not the best option

yosemite: a national park? not gonna happen

kings canyon: same

sierra foothills: would be good actually. near sacramento, central location

central coast: would be good but who would host? only biggish cities are santa barbara and san luis obispo

humboldt: way too far north

shasta: too far north

beauty isnt what xc is about. you gotta think about facilities, transportation, costs, ease of access, weather, etc. fresno is good for all of that.

Shameless promotor of the santa barbara idea because i live here. The weather is perfect for running 90% of the year, and it's a somewhat central location. And i doubt teams would complain, because everything is better than Fresno. There aren't any big enough already made cross country courses, but there's a 2x 1 mile tract of land that reminds me of the wisconsin invite course that hasn't been used in a long time. I hope to one day turn it into a course. And it would be amazing

The Donger wrote:

Fres-NO.

Tahoe national forest. Yosemite. Kings Canyon. Sierra foothills. Central coast. Humbolt. Shasta...

The list goes on and on where you can have beautiful amazing xc courses. Yet it is held on a course that runs on a road, up and down curbs and on a 6 foot wide path with a field whose depth is the best in the nation. The course hasn't been worked on since the footlocker days. And simply, Fresno sucks.

Is there not a better race course in all of California?

And Mt. Sac is even worse. And don't get me started about Balboa park. No national xc championship should be run around tennis courts.

1) It's spelled Phreznough

2) It's the anus of California, not the armpit

Have to disagree, Bakersfield is the anus. Barstow is the rectum.

The Donger wrote:

Who is the CA State Meet held in the arm pit of the State?

Who is the meet in Fresno? When is the reason? How is the logic? How many is it spelled?

I need answers!!!!