I currently run 70 miles a week and feel that I would be wasting my time to go to a school that is running 60. I want to go up to 85-90 in college. Any suggestions?
I currently run 70 miles a week and feel that I would be wasting my time to go to a school that is running 60. I want to go up to 85-90 in college. Any suggestions?
Check out UCSB. It wasn't uncommon for multiple women on the team (usually the 3rd/4th/5th years) to be running 90+ miles a week.
Same thing is probably true at places like Colorado.
What are your times?
This may be a bit complicated here but it should work...
1) Go to said school that has the females running 60 mpw
2) Run an extra 20-25 mpw on your own
Problem solved
Bratwurst wrote:
This may be a bit complicated here but it should work...
1) Go to said school that has the females running 60 mpw
2) Run an extra 20-25 mpw on your own
Problem solved
Terrible advice.
Narrow the schools you want to attend down to 5. Email the coaches and see if you are good enough for them. Build a healthy relationship with the coach, communication is key. Tell him how you feel on a weekly if not daily basis. Be honest. After your freshman year if you feel like you're able to increase mileage then tell him.
Kyle's Killer Lemonade wrote:
Bratwurst wrote:This may be a bit complicated here but it should work...
1) Go to said school that has the females running 60 mpw
2) Run an extra 20-25 mpw on your own
Problem solved
Terrible advice.
Narrow the schools you want to attend down to 5. Email the coaches and see if you are good enough for them. Build a healthy relationship with the coach, communication is key. Tell him how you feel on a weekly if not daily basis. Be honest. After your freshman year if you feel like you're able to increase mileage then tell him.
Of course it's bad advice, but OP seems to have a big ass so I supplied the turd...
10:43 3200 and 17:46 5k Cross
I could get those times running 30 mpw. You're trying way to hard for such mediocrity. Try golfing.
Colorado definitely.
Also you may want to look at what the coach's philosophy is. Sometimes they have girls run 60mpw because it took them a while to build them to that from their HS 30. A lot would rather have a girl like you who can handle more, and would build your miles over time until you reached a sustainably high mileage, as 90 may be for you.
Programs like this would include as previously mentioned:
UCSB
Wisconsin
NAU
Chico State
Oklahoma State
and many more.
Bratwurst wrote:
I could get those times running 30 mpw. You're trying way to hard for such mediocrity. Try golfing.
Because you're a dude?
The CU women aren't running those kinds of miles. The older ones may be doing 70-75, tops. I'd surprise if many schools are running above that. Basing a college decision on which program runs the highest milage seems like a strange goal.
It's actually pretty good advice, coach.
Kyle's Killer Lemonade wrote:
Bratwurst wrote:This may be a bit complicated here but it should work...
1) Go to said school that has the females running 60 mpw
2) Run an extra 20-25 mpw on your own
Problem solved
Terrible advice.
Narrow the schools you want to attend down to 5. Email the coaches and see if you are good enough for them. Build a healthy relationship with the coach, communication is key. Tell him how you feel on a weekly if not daily basis. Be honest. After your freshman year if you feel like you're able to increase mileage then tell him.
gnome de plume wrote:
Basing a college decision on which program runs the highest milage seems like a strange goal.
I have to agree with this. This is a very important decision in your life and you don't want to make a decision based solely on mpw. If I think about the current pro distance runners the schools they attended include:
Notre Dame
North Carolina
Dartmouth
UC Davis
Colorado
Duke
Oregon
Georgetown
Tennessee
Successful athletes come from all over and if you're meant to be a pro runner you can be successful anywhere. Frankly, I'd look at that list and consider the schools I'd want to attend if I wasn't a pro runner. You can get in just about anywhere with your times.
Good luck.
Thank you. I am heading to the counseling office today to do a little investigating. You have given me a great starting point.
Mr. Nice Guy wrote:
gnome de plume wrote:Basing a college decision on which program runs the highest milage seems like a strange goal.
I have to agree with this. This is a very important decision in your life and you don't want to make a decision based solely on mpw. If I think about the current pro distance runners the schools they attended include:
Notre Dame
North Carolina
Dartmouth
UC Davis
Colorado
Duke
Oregon
Georgetown
Tennessee
Successful athletes come from all over and if you're meant to be a pro runner you can be successful anywhere. Frankly, I'd look at that list and consider the schools I'd want to attend if I wasn't a pro runner. You can get in just about anywhere with your times.
Good luck.
I hope you realize that many of these schools have had coaching changes within the past 3 years (5 of those schools within the past year).
Mr. Nice Guy wrote:
gnome de plume wrote:Basing a college decision on which program runs the highest milage seems like a strange goal.
I have to agree with this. This is a very important decision in your life and you don't want to make a decision based solely on mpw. If I think about the current pro distance runners the schools they attended include:
Notre Dame
North Carolina
Dartmouth
UC Davis
Colorado
Duke
Oregon
Georgetown
Tennessee
Successful athletes come from all over and if you're meant to be a pro runner you can be successful anywhere. Frankly, I'd look at that list and consider the schools I'd want to attend if I wasn't a pro runner. You can get in just about anywhere with your times.
Good luck.
do not consider Tennessee. Didn't you read the thread about several athletes having their scholarships yanked before they even showed up on campus.
If you really want to do your thing, check out an Ivy school. You re not on an athletic scholarship, so can pretty much do what you want (sort of).
I don't recall the OP saying anything about becoming a Pro - perhaps she feels that high mileage works for her - It didn't hurt Cam Levins all that much in College. While not everyone can or should do that, one of the problems of College coaching is the one-size fits-all approach that everyone should be doing the same - mileage, workouts, etc. Nothing could be further from the truth and is why there is so much mediocrity in the system.
Check out Central Connecticut State University. Head coach is World Mountain Running Team member Eric Blake. With your times and training interests, it sounds like a great fit.
Curiouser,
Based upon on your current PRs and mpw, you may need to rethink some of your training or criteria for college programs. Yes, running seventy miles a week in high school is impressive, but as one commenter noted (in a not very nice way), many women at D1 schools run faster times on less mileage. That's not to say your approach isn't what's best for you, but you may actually send some red flags to the coaches you contact by declaring you want to run 85-90 miles in college. Who is coaching you currently? [You don't have to name them - but is this your father? an outside person? or your run of the mill hs coach? ]
Here's why: You're already creating a wedge between yourself and your potential coach because you are dictating the parameters of your training and not your coach. Granted, there are some coaches who will interpret it as being motivated and be glad to have you on board. For others though, you might seem like someone who is in danger of constant injuries, addiction to exercise, and a prime candidate for burn-out. Others may disagree with me, but it may actually help you to undersell how much you're running. As someone who ran at a top program, I can assure you that I have some knowledge about how this works for women.
Also, some of the schools mentioned previously would be terrible candidates for someone who presumably wants to run the 10k/5k in college - unless you want to train alone or end your career before it even begins. While I'm not super familiar with a school like Iowa State, they've had considerable success with coaching young women in the the 5k & 10k. Other programs are much stronger in mid-distance and would not fit you well.
Are you serious about academics? That's the first thing to consider. Then consider athletics as leverage to get into a great university. If that's less important, then you have more options (although later in life...).
Most top programs have their female runners running anywhere between 60-80+ miles. Perhaps some require more, some slightly less (for mid-distance)....So I don't think the mileage requirement should be that important. Moreover, your training will be much more intense. If you go to a good program, you'll run with great runners six/seven days a week. It's a challenge. 70 miles at a higher intensity in college is way different than 70 miles in high school....you may think you're hardcore now, but college is usually a rude awakening.
For a general idea of the "best" programs, check out the NCAA XC rankings (obvious I know). Yes, each program has its quirks (you should consider what their emphasis is - where you want to train - etc) , but most of those are pretty great programs, with a few exceptions.
A good college coach will challenge you in all sorts of ways—and will not always tell you what you want to hear. That's for high school. I wish I had been more willing to learn in college (from my coach) and less convinced that I knew what was best.
Good luck with your search!
What year are you? I am a college coach and would be interested in a high mileage girl to add to some of my other girls who run 75-85 miles per week.