Worst Teams at West Regionals

Karl Dish wrote:

...Obviously men's results. the only way I would check the women's results is if they womaned-up and ran 8k for the championship season.

I would like to see a poll taken at regionals asking each female how many miles are in 6k. I would guess that a quarter of the field isn't sure and that half the field couldn't figure out their avg mile time when they see their finish time.

What a moronic statement. Compensating for some sort of inadequacy there junior?

If high school boys, who take longer to reach physical maturity, can adjust from 5k to the college length of 8k/10k, why can't the women be expected to adjust as well? What is 6k, other than 3.728 miles? It's ridiculous. Do you really think the average female in the west region, who is running a 6 min mile, is clued in to her pacing or just thinks its like high school cross country plus a little more? Either way, if I'm a "junior" then you are and old f---, art or uck, you decide.

What exactly is your point? That it would be better if the women ran 8k rather than 6k in regionals and the championship? Fine. Whatever. It all depends on whether you want a longer, slower race or a shorter, faster one. They all run plenty of miles and could certainly handle the distance. It just becomes a longer and slower race. Maybe the powers that be have decided the women's field is already strung out enough.

"What is 6k, other than 3.728 miles? It's ridiculous." Umm, okay. Thanks for doing the math.

And, yeah I'm pretty sure the women are clued into their pace. Why the hell wouldn't they be? Are they somehow less able to judge effort than the men? The D1 runners I know have no difficulty differentiating between an appropriate pace for a 5k race, 6k race, 5 mile tempo, 12 mile long run, etc. But, again, how does this factor in to your argument that they should be running 8k (assuming that is your point, it's a bit hard to tell)?

All of which, of course, has nothing to do with your discussion about weak mens teams.

Worst team in West? Easy answer. Oregon State women. Not even close. Team has signed some decent runners - 5 HS sub 5 minute milers lined up on Friday who all were also very good to decent in xc yet have mostly gotten slower. Losing to in-state Portland State by 85 pts is inexcusable not to mention Seattle and Gonzaga and Sac St. OSU would be a bottom of Big Sky as they barely beat Big Sky Idado which was next to last. This at a great destination in theory or should be for distance. Sullivan claiming "we are young" but 10 years in that excuse rings hollow and his "redshirting" excuse is BS as even with Kinsey Gomez, who is only top 5 absent Friday, would result in a score of about same as Portland St at best. Cal underperformered on men and women but no where close to level of Oregon State which has over 10 scholly's in distance!

Karl Dish wrote:

...Obviously men's results. the only way I would check the women's results is if they womaned-up and ran 8k for the championship season.

I would like to see a poll taken at regionals asking each female how many miles are in 6k. I would guess that a quarter of the field isn't sure and that half the field couldn't figure out their avg mile time when they see their finish time.

#9 - UC Berkeley -

Yea, like those UC kids that scored 2300 on their SATs can't do such calculations and are clueless.

I have seen a lot of dumb-ass posts on LetsRun, but yours is really, really stupid.

if they are so smart, why don't they teach themselves to run faster?

There seems to be pretty good job security at low performing schools. As long as a coach can keep his pants on, running well doesn't matter.

Big West

What does Sac St have to do to get a mens cross team and switch from the mountain west to the big west?

As a side note, I've always thought it was a shame when University of Nevada cut its mens teams. They could and should be what UNM and NAU are.

Berkeley is having a rebuilding year, trust me they'll be there when it counts. Go bears

Do you not realize that a number of women WANT the race distance moved up to 8k? But stupid politics and a bunch of old men on the NCAA committee prevents that.

UC alum wrote:

Berkeley is having a rebuilding year, trust me they'll be there when it counts. Go bears

I think you mean "building"

Portland has been the only consistent team over the past decade that performs at or above their ability level/ funding limits. Most of the pac 10 takes turns sh1tting the bed and even Stanford and Oregon will have unexplained off years. The Big West is just sad, so much talent in CA and these coaches don't know how to catch or develop it.