lol @ Jeff furiously playing clean up after today
he doesn't believe in drugs
lol @ Jeff furiously playing clean up after today
he doesn't believe in drugs
Jeff Wigand, taken after the moniker of the guy who confessed that cigarettes were engineered as a drug delivery device.
Probe deeper folks, behind the enablers and defenders, and you may discover more where the big business really is in sport.
I know how you feel NativeSon. I got a similar kick in the gut back when I opened LetsRun to discover Sammy Had died. Sorry, but this feels like a death to me. Heart goes out to those who work hard and now have to compete under a cloud of suspicion.
outsiderunner wrote:
Is there anything worse than an empty victory?
For professionals, there is money to be made, at least. But when amateurs dope, I too have a hard time understanding how someone can get any satisfaction from a performance that is not really his.
rhymes with colt wrote:
These sorts of stories shouldn't be published unless the B comes back positive.
With $ 500,000 on the line for WMM title, they had to announce it prior to Sundays NYCM. It changes the whole dynamics of the race...
Also, keep in mind that 99 out of 100 times, the b sample shows the same result as the a sample.
I see whee you are coming from, grox--money tends to have this affect. Still, though, I do not completely get it. I will take my cheap third place ribbon from my local Kiwanis 5k over the tainted cash and laurel wreath any day. My little third place ribbon is real and it is mine, and it hides humbly among assorted messages, cards, and pictures on my bulletin board. Many hours of sweat were poured into roads, trails, and track for that ribbon. I rarely even notice that little ribbon, but when I do, I think of how I love that little ribbon, and that I love it for what it represents…and that I love running even more.
I will "join" many of you here on LR: I will go run 12 miles in the rain, and I salute all of you.
outsiderunner wrote:
I see whee you are coming from, grox--money tends to have this affect. Still, though, I do not completely get it. I will take my cheap third place ribbon from my local Kiwanis 5k over the tainted cash and laurel wreath any day. My little third place ribbon is real and it is mine, and it hides humbly among assorted messages, cards, and pictures on my bulletin board. Many hours of sweat were poured into roads, trails, and track for that ribbon. I rarely even notice that little ribbon, but when I do, I think of how I love that little ribbon, and that I love it for what it represents…and that I love running even more.
I will "join" many of you here on LR: I will go run 12 miles in the rain, and I salute all of you.
nice sentiment, but your family isn't a bunch of sustenance farmers depending on your race to feed and house them.
She deserves due process before we condemn her.
However runners who use banned substances, if found guilty, should receive a lifetime ban, not a 1-2 year suspension. It's the only way to send a message that drug use will not be tolerated.
The price has to be high enough that it's not worth it.
Nutella1 wrote:
99 out of 100 times, the b sample shows the same result as the a sample.
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments.
El Keniano wrote:
NativeSon wrote:I concur too. I think she should get a lifetime ban. That is not asking too much. That is the only way a message can be sent to our (Kenyan athletes).
Also, she should never be allowed to go anywhere near AK training faciilites or even interact with any athlete (especially the youth).
Unbelievably horrible news!
I know how you feel NativeSon. I got a similar kick in the gut back when I opened LetsRun to discover Sammy Had died. Sorry, but this feels like a death to me. Heart goes out to those who work hard and now have to compete under a cloud of suspicion.
Hi El Keniano,
I first learnt about this stuff here on LRC last night at about 8:00 p.m. Eastern. I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT!
When people 'say I stopped in my tracks', I never understand what they mean but last night, I stopped.
I was actually having my tea adn just couldn't proceed. it grew cold and I had to warm it twice. I am still tryign to come to terms with it but to me, this is bigger than Jeptoo.
As they say with regard to Caeser and his wife, our athletes should be above suspicion/beyond reproach and as you hinted, this will now be the yard stick by which our elite athletes will be viewed and gauged.
I am sure so many of our athletes must be mad at her right now because of the association adn even the image.
I feel sorry for Mare Dibaba who lost to her in Chicago.
Let's see what happens bu tin my opinion, she is done. At 33 or whatever, if she gets a two year ban which is probably what they'll do, she won't make a come back.
I wonder what the Ethiopians are thinking.
NativeSon wrote:
I feel sorry for Mare Dibaba who lost to her in Chicago.
Let's see what happens bu tin my opinion, she is done. At 33 or whatever, if she gets a two year ban which is probably what they'll do, she won't make a come back.
What is really sad is how people, perhaps unconsciously, put the drugs as more important than people, who have hearts, minds, souls. We are human alive people, not drugs or drug tests, which are inconsequential and have no meaning at all.
You have faith in the drugs, and drug tests, but not in your fellow athletes, what a shame.
I see coach Claudio Berardelli and manager Federico Rosa wasted no time in throwing her under the bus, backing up over her and leaving her to fend for herself against the hyenas. Forgetting her crime for a bit, this is such a dishonourable way to treat a lady. Never mind one who's brought them so much success and made them a ton of dough. Maybe this is perfectly acceptable in Italian culture? Anyway, proves what I've always suspected. She was nothing more than a mere racehorse for them to be coldly put down once she outgrows her usefulness. It would be an outrage if she's punished alone and they get off scot free. No escaping this is the third high profile name from their stable to fail a drug test. Matthew Kosorio and some comic relief from Paula Radcliffe's gossipy whispering of Jemima Sumgong's name to remind the media of her cortisone scandal.
If Rita's confirmed to have doped, no one can convince me these two didn't abet and facilitate the cheating. AK should have them thrown out of the country.
El Keniano wrote:
I see coach Claudio Berardelli and manager Federico Rosa wasted no time in throwing her under the bus, backing up over her and leaving her to fend for herself against the hyenas.
+1
As expected as it was, it's brutal. As always, we are served the story of an isolated rogue athlete who betrayed everyone.
+1
Her coach, Paula Radcliffe, should be banned immediately!
+2
circumspector wrote:
Flo'da boy wrote:+1
+2
+3
I see Kimetto as a "Miracle Man"...who performed the miracle of convincing me that the top Kenyans are as dirty as the Russian women.
J.R. wrote:
NativeSon wrote:I feel sorry for Mare Dibaba who lost to her in Chicago.
Let's see what happens bu tin my opinion, she is done. At 33 or whatever, if she gets a two year ban which is probably what they'll do, she won't make a come back.
What is really sad is how people, perhaps unconsciously, put the drugs as more important than people, who have hearts, minds, souls. We are human alive people, not drugs or drug tests, which are inconsequential and have no meaning at all.
You have faith in the drugs, and drug tests, but not in your fellow athletes, what a shame.
JFC