Erin Finn of Michigan has a faster 5k PR than Jordan Hassay

You're an idiot lol.

Erin Finn may have a faster PR but will NEVER surpass Jordan Hasay in what is REALLY important.

The Ponytail!

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Hasay has some indication of speed. Finn not so much. I assume she's working on that and will improve though.

One made the decision to go to Oregon and run for Nike. This means that the PR Machine will create an image that far exceeds reality.

Indoor? wrote:

Hasay has some indication of speed. Finn not so much. I assume she's working on that and will improve though.

So what if she has speed? You don't need speed. You need good 5k and 10k ability.

Hasay came in 2nd in the 5K US road championship. She ran 15:25 and Huddle won in 15:10. A 15:25 on that road course is probably equivalent to running 10-15 seconds faster on a track.

Hackster wrote:

One made the decision to go to Oregon and run for Nike. This means that the PR Machine will create an image that far exceeds reality.

The Hasay PR machine was at work even before then. She was always popular.

another thing wrote:

Hasay came in 2nd in the 5K US road championship. She ran 15:25 and Huddle won in 15:10. A 15:25 on that road course is probably equivalent to running 10-15 seconds faster on a track.

Is that road course uphill or something?

Jordan Hasay started receiving national attention when she ran a 17:06 5K at the age of 12, a national age group record. She is a household name who has been around forever. At the young age of 23, she is just now beginning to enter her prime years. Comparing Erin Finn's times to Jordan's times is like comparing a minor league pitcher to Madison Bumgarner.

actually it sorta is, as everyone knows that you lose more than you gain with a hill, if you are to go up and back down the same hill, like you do at providence with the starting DH/finishing uphill. thank you for your contribution to this thread. perhaps you'd like to compile the list of american winners at tufts and compare JH to them? she's doing just fine for "only" a 15:2x runner

I'd say Finn is a better 5k runner. She has run similar times with significantly less advantages and opportunities. I'm just waiting for Jordan Hasay to finally live up to the hype she gets. People worship her around here. I like her and everything, but people go bananas for this "sensation"

Intern at hospital wrote:

Comparing Erin Finn's times to Jordan's times is like comparing a minor league pitcher to Madison Bumgarner.

That makes no sense if Finn's time is faster.

fryerfriar wrote:

actually it sorta is, as everyone knows that you lose more than you gain with a hill, if you are to go up and back down the same hill, like you do at providence with the starting DH/finishing uphill. thank you for your contribution to this thread. perhaps you'd like to compile the list of american winners at tufts and compare JH to them? she's doing just fine for "only" a 15:2x runner

It was a simple question so I don't know what all the attitude is about. I don't know every course's layout.

No I would not like to compile any lists. Why would I want to do that?? Also the thread isn't about how well Hasay is doing. It is about how Finn has a faster time.

coach bigfoot wrote:I'm just waiting for Jordan Hasay to finally live up to the hype she gets. People worship her around here. I like her and everything, but people go bananas for this "sensation"

Jordan isn't the second coming, people just genuinely like her. She's fearless, she trains hard, she goes for it. Is she the best talent this country has produced? Probably not. But the girl does not quit and keeps pushing hard.

THAT'S why people go bananas for her.

whatthewhatthewhat wrote:

Jordan isn't the second coming, people just genuinely like her. She's fearless, she trains hard, she goes for it. Is she the best talent this country has produced? Probably not. But the girl does not quit and keeps pushing hard.

THAT'S why people go bananas for her.

Why would she ever quit? I don't understand how that's a reason to like her if she's never even had a reason to quit.

whatthewhatthewhat wrote:

She's fearless, she trains hard, she goes for it. Is she the best talent this country has produced? Probably not. But the girl does not quit and keeps pushing hard.

So she's like 90% of the professional women's distance runners in the US?

It's because she's been a sensation for so long

sorry, I figured the course was pretty well known among those following the sport, so I took the comment as sarcasm. I think it's significant enough, probably about 35ft of gain in only 200m, so it accounts for 5-8s slower, plus there is always a touch of wind on that course, so it's fair to call it 10+ sec slower, 15 max (IMO). I appreciate that finn technically has a faster time, but I think JH showed she's in much better shape than that this fall. obviously one has to actually DO IT but I think the implied message of the initial post is a misnomer

kdkdo wrote:

It was a simple question so I don't know what all the attitude is about. I don't know every course's layout.

No I would not like to compile any lists. Why would I want to do that?? Also the thread isn't about how well Hasay is doing. It is about how Finn has a faster time.

What differentiates Jordan from other elite runners is the fact that she's been at it for so long (since 12 years old), been consistently good, is still improving, is inspirational, and still has that "rock star" image among youngins. (and I forgot - the trademark hair!)