"Some places like Oregon have the program, but it's no better than a high school education."

said '96 Gabe Jennings wrote:

Gabe Jennings said this to Jennifer Briggs, a sports reporter for the Wisconsin State Journal. The quote appeared at the end of an article in the 10/31/1996 news edition where Jennings openly announced he turned down the University of Wisconsin.

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And now Jennings buses tables at a 2 bit eatery for minimum wage. Any more "pearls of wisdom" from Jennings?

What does he mean by ceramics? pottery? Like in that ghost movie?

Talk about being full of yourself, jesus this kid had a mouth

Ok...you are an idiot wrote:

And now Jennings buses tables at a 2 bit eatery for minimum wage. Any more "pearls of wisdom" from Jennings?

Jennings has a law degree and last I heard was involved in or a consultant to a Chinese govt sponsored education program in China.

Many high schools in this country actually offer a better education than an Oregon diploma is worth.

There are a few departments at Oregon that are better than the same departments at Standford. Wisconsin has several as well.

okngr0i3 wrote:

There are a few departments at Oregon that are better than the same departments at Standford. Wisconsin has several as well.

Standford maybe, Stanford definitely not. Oregon and Wisconsin are little better than Junior Colleges academically. Stanford confers real degrees, not pieces of scrap paper that are passed of as diploma. There are only a few dozen "real" Colleges in America, which includes Stanford but they are the only one in the Pac12, there are none in the Big 10.

Didn't Jennings get his law degree from Oregon though?

I think there are many Northwestern U. grads that will have problems with your "goofy" statement !

TLW wrote:

Didn't Jennings get his law degree from Oregon though?

I have no opinions or knowledge about their law school, but their undergrad college does not have the most stellar academic reputation. Jennings made the right decision by choosing Stanford.

hurry up and wait wrote:

okngr0i3 wrote:

There are a few departments at Oregon that are better than the same departments at Standford. Wisconsin has several as well.

Standford maybe, Stanford definitely not. Oregon and Wisconsin are little better than Junior Colleges academically. Stanford confers real degrees, not pieces of scrap paper that are passed of as diploma. There are only a few dozen "real" Colleges in America, which includes Stanford but they are the only one in the Pac12, there are none in the Big 10.

In a ranking of the top universities in the world Wisconsin ends up in the top 30 - in the world, not just the US. Oregon is much further down the list, in the group from 250 to 300, if I recall correctly. I think that there were seven or so Big 10 (and a similar number of Pac-12) schools before the first SEC school, Vanderbilt, although the ranking has at least as much (or more) to do with graduate education as undergrad.

he'd make a crappy waiter wrote:

Ok...you are an idiot wrote:

And now Jennings buses tables at a 2 bit eatery for minimum wage. Any more "pearls of wisdom" from Jennings?

Jennings has a law degree and last I heard was involved in or a consultant to a Chinese govt sponsored education program in China.

He is actually a founder of AirBnB. He is super rich.

gulch wrote:

he'd make a crappy waiter wrote:

Jennings has a law degree and last I heard was involved in or a consultant to a Chinese govt sponsored education program in China.

He is actually a founder of AirBnB. He is super rich.

That's Chris Lukezic. Surely they aren't both in management of that company...

26mi235 wrote:

hurry up and wait wrote:

Standford maybe, Stanford definitely not. Oregon and Wisconsin are little better than Junior Colleges academically. Stanford confers real degrees, not pieces of scrap paper that are passed of as diploma. There are only a few dozen "real" Colleges in America, which includes Stanford but they are the only one in the Pac12, there are none in the Big 10.

In a ranking of the top universities in the world Wisconsin ends up in the top 30 - in the world, not just the US. Oregon is much further down the list, in the group from 250 to 300, if I recall correctly. I think that there were seven or so Big 10 (and a similar number of Pac-12) schools before the first SEC school, Vanderbilt, although the ranking has at least as much (or more) to do with graduate education as undergrad.

Pretty much this. As per usual, another Letsrun.com pseudo-intellectual with unrealistic standards stomps on a perfectly competent school that has trained respectable doctors and engineers. UW - Madison is comparable to Ivy League schools in terms of the quality of education, even if the prestige isn't there.

Wisconsin currently sits at #47 in the UNITED STATES:

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/page+5

You can get a perfectly fine education in the honors program or in the sciences there but, because it's a state school and full of in state morons, most classes are complete jokes.

Note that there are 4 Pac-10 schools in the top 25 -- Stanford, UCLA, Cal and USC -- and zero Big 10 schools in the top 25. Vanderbilt sits at 16.

I realize that the USNWR isn't the be all end all for rankings but it largely gets it right. Any ranking that has Wisconsin in the top 30 in the world is completely worthless. Let me guess, Harvard isn't in the top 3 either.

shrink wrapped wrote:

I realize that the USNWR isn't the be all end all for rankings but it largely gets it right. Any ranking that has Wisconsin in the top 30 in the world is completely worthless. Let me guess, Harvard isn't in the top 3 either.

The USNWR does not largely get it right. Have you even read the criteria for ranking? It has little or nothing to do with the actual undergraduate education.

The quality of your classmates is irrelevant. Math is math. Seriously, why do you conclude that any ranking that has Wisconsin in the top 30 is worthless? Do you even have a rational and logical reason for that statement?

I went to Wisconsin and it was O.K.

USNWR and Carnegie ranking measure different things.

Very few of these ranking services measure undergraduate education, mostly they measure research productivity and grant funding.

Check the Social Mobility Index (SMI) that measures tuition cost, low-income students, and median career income. Here\'s you\'ll see schools that change lives with their education.

http://www.socialmobilityindex.org/

If you think that a college education is all about your fellow students, you are full of it. If you have heavy-publishing professors, as you have at virtually every university with a research mission--e.g. all the major SEC, Big Ten, Pac 12 schools, and many others--then your professors are almost all going to be experts in their fields with great pedigrees and incredibly smart. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get one of those jobs? A typical case is that there are hundreds of Ph.D. applicants for any one of those jobs, and most of the people have published significantly even at the assistant professor level. Many of the applicants will already have jobs at somewhat less attractive institutions, and then some will be those who did not get tenure at more prestigious schools. Among the candidates, the GRE scores, depending on the field, will be extremely high. Where you have top profs but some lousy students, the competition for grades may not be intense, but you will still have the opportunity to get a top flight education.

Here are the average scores for Chemistry grad students at Harvard. I have no idea what they mean, since they clearly changed the scoring system. Remember that some of these admitted students will not complete their degree and become professors.

What are the average GRE scores for those who were admitted to the program last year?

GRE Verbal=163

GRE Quantitative=166

GRE Analytical= 4.8

GRE Chemistry= 812

What are the average GPA scores for those who were admitted to the program last year?

GPA OVERALL=3.85

GPA SCIENCE=3.88