I'm in the Army, and am used to firing the m4 carbine. This is the only weapon I'm familiar with since I had no background in firearms prior to enlisting.
Where can I find an AR15 that is basically the exact same thing as an m4, except only semiautomatic?
***Looking for something with the same length, weight, collapsible buttstock, etc. Colt seems to have some models like this but I'm not sure whether they're available to the public.
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If I remember this correctly, press B and then 4 and then 3. But remember you need to have $3500 or something like that.
If I remember this correctly, press B and then 4 and then 3. But remember you need to have $3500 or something like that.
Hmmm - think that's just for military.
maxpower wrote:
http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Military/Products/ColtM4Carbine.aspx
The Colt Model 6920 or Civilian "M4," is as close as it gets.
Only real differences:
civilian Colt 6920 16.1" barrel vs 14.5" DOD M4
Civilian Colt 6920 model is safe and semi-auto mode.
DOD M4 is safe-semi-3rd burst
DOD M4A1 safe-semi-full auto
You can purchase pre 86 select fire NFA registered select fire Colt lower receivers in most states if you want a fully automatic select fire Colt. Registered receivers are about $20k and the stamp is $200.
Thought the 6920 was just for law enforcement. Can I find one at a local gun store?
Tap Rack Bang B wrote:
maxpower wrote:http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Military/Products/ColtM4Carbine.aspxThe Colt Model 6920 or Civilian "M4," is as close as it gets.
Only real differences:
civilian Colt 6920 16.1" barrel vs 14.5" DOD M4
Civilian Colt 6920 model is safe and semi-auto mode.
DOD M4 is safe-semi-3rd burst
DOD M4A1 safe-semi-full auto
You can purchase pre 86 select fire NFA registered select fire Colt lower receivers in most states if you want a fully automatic select fire Colt. Registered receivers are about $20k and the stamp is $200.
I'm pretty sure I've seen the Colt LE6920 for sale at the local WalMart, so yeah, you can find them. Just visit your local gun store (LGS) and ask. You can determine a fair price by checking out auctions at GunBroker. Or, you could order through a participating dealer through GalleryOfGuns, aka GunGenie, to have it delivered to a participating LGS. Or go to a nearby gun show. Be safe.
Tap Rack Bang B wrote:
The Colt Model 6920 or Civilian "M4," is as close as it gets.
Only real differences:
civilian Colt 6920 16.1" barrel vs 14.5" DOD M4
You can get the 14.5" barrel with a permanently-attached muzzle device that brings the total length past the 16" NFA requirement.
Nope. Walmart and other FFL Dealers carry them in stock as low as $899.00
gun question wrote:
Thought the 6920 was just for law enforcement.
Can I find one at a local gun store?
Tap Rack Bang B wrote:The Colt Model 6920 or Civilian "M4," is as close as it gets.
Only real differences:
civilian Colt 6920 16.1" barrel vs 14.5" DOD M4
Civilian Colt 6920 model is safe and semi-auto mode.
DOD M4 is safe-semi-3rd burst
DOD M4A1 safe-semi-full auto
You can purchase pre 86 select fire NFA registered select fire Colt lower receivers in most states if you want a fully automatic select fire Colt. Registered receivers are about $20k and the stamp is $200.
Running on Empathy wrote:
Tap Rack Bang B wrote:The Colt Model 6920 or Civilian "M4," is as close as it gets.
Only real differences:
civilian Colt 6920 16.1" barrel vs 14.5" DOD M4
You can get the 14.5" barrel with a permanently-attached muzzle device that brings the total length past the 16" NFA requirement.
True, but your LGS generally does not sell them in that configuration. You would have to buy a 14.5 barrel upper separately then perm attach the FH. Or buy a Colt 6921 which is the NFA 14.5 upper model. That will require a stamp and about a 9 month wait.
Tap Rack Bang B wrote:
Running on Empathy wrote:You can get the 14.5" barrel with a permanently-attached muzzle device that brings the total length past the 16" NFA requirement.
True, but your LGS generally does not sell them in that configuration. You would have to buy a 14.5 barrel upper separately then perm attach the FH. Or buy a Colt 6921 which is the NFA 14.5 upper model. That will require a stamp and about a 9 month wait.
The easiest way to achieve the "feel" of the 14.5" barrel is to buy just the upper receiver with the 14.5" barrel online, which doesn't require going through an FFL. Then just buy a Colt or equivalent stripped lower at the LGS (or order one online and have it shipped to the LGS), then buy an LPK and build your own lower receiver. That's the way I've done it a few times, it's as easy as pie, and I'm in no way a mechanical guy.
Running on Empathy wrote:
Tap Rack Bang B wrote:True, but your LGS generally does not sell them in that configuration. You would have to buy a 14.5 barrel upper separately then perm attach the FH. Or buy a Colt 6921 which is the NFA 14.5 upper model. That will require a stamp and about a 9 month wait.
The easiest way to achieve the "feel" of the 14.5" barrel is to buy just the upper receiver with the 14.5" barrel online, which doesn't require going through an FFL. Then just buy a Colt or equivalent stripped lower at the LGS (or order one online and have it shipped to the LGS), then buy an LPK and build your own lower receiver. That's the way I've done it a few times, it's as easy as pie, and I'm in no way a mechanical guy.
Not arguing with you, and I know the laws.
You could go that route unless you want to one stop shop. The difference between the 14.5 and 16 is negligible. I have an NFA 10" that is distinctly different than my 16" and even 18" barrel uppers. That is the beauty of the AR15 system, one lower an multiple uppers.
I would just buy a standard 6920 and multiple uppers over time.
1 upper is not enough.
Before you know it you will have 4-5 uppers, suppressors, and thousands of $ in optics stashed in a safe.
Been there and doing that.
I highly recommend an NFA Trust too.
I would think the S&W M&P 15 or the AR15 would be the closest because the M16 and AR15 are virtually identical save for the fully automatic on the military grade M16 and it is only slightly larger than the M4 so I would assume they handle close to the same.