Thomas Graham 3rd at Santa Clara

congrats

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Men 8k Run CC Invitational

Team Scores

1Oklahoma State30

Total Time: 1:59:40.60

Average: 23:56.12

2Stanford65

Total Time: 2:00:27.10

Average: 24:05.42

3Cal Poly71

Total Time: 2:00:29.20

Average: 24:05.84

4Utah Valley165

Total Time: 2:01:51.61

Average: 24:22.32

5Chico State165

Total Time: 2:01:52.40

Average: 24:22.48

6Santa Clara219

Total Time: 2:02:40.80

Average: 24:32.16

7UC Santa Barbara265

Total Time: 2:03:23.80

Average: 24:40.76

8Utah State276

Total Time: 2:03:40.00

Average: 24:44.00

9San Jose St.278

Total Time: 2:04:17.20

Average: 24:51.44

10St. Mary's (Cal.)282

Total Time: 2:03:45.80

Average: 24:45.16

11Cal Baptist303

Total Time: 2:04:03.30

Average: 24:48.66

12British Columbia358

Total Time: 2:04:49.20

Average: 24:57.84

13Cal St. Monterey Bay399

Total Time: 2:05:37.70

Average: 25:07.54

14New Mexico St.402

Total Time: 2:05:40.80

Average: 25:08.16

15American River405

Total Time: 2:05:52.40

Average: 25:10.48

16The Masters433

Total Time: 2:06:10.90

Average: 25:14.18

17Idaho State435

Total Time: 2:06:22.20

Average: 25:16.44

18Academy of Art466

Total Time: 2:07:08.90

Average: 25:25.78

19Sacramento St.474

Total Time: 2:06:54.50

Average: 25:22.90

20Grand Canyon480

Total Time: 2:07:23.70

Average: 25:28.74

21San Diego518

Total Time: 2:07:47.60

Average: 25:33.52

22Fresno Pacific550

Total Time: 2:08:36.50

Average: 25:43.30

23UC Davis552

Total Time: 2:08:21.30

Average: 25:40.26

Well, Stanford ran most or all of the "A" team guys at Wisconsin yesterday, and the top three Standford guys all ran as a group and at least one or two were thus probably not quite all-out.

Also, note the guy in 19th, who ran 6th in the Stanford race last month with a performance that got him the DII XC runner of the week. If the name is familiar look at the Oregon roster.

Looking at who Thomas Graham beat from OK State, he would be #5-man on the OK State team, and they are higher ranked than Stanford.

What a strange state of affairs.

Very strange indeed. Is he still enrolled at Stanford has he transferred to another school?

Yes, he is still enrolled at Stanford. He took visits to Syracuse, Wisconsin, and NC State over the summer but decided to stay at Stanford.

How is he running so well?

Say what???? wrote:

How is he running so well?

What are you so surprised about? That someone can perform well without a coach?

So is he going to transfer somewhere and compete on a d1 team again or no?

why did he leave the team exactly? If he's runninh unattached and just as fast as he would at a meet where stanford sent B guys anyways, why wouldn't graham have just stayed on the roster to continuing competing for the cardinals?

Did he leave by choice or he was cut for some reason?

Thomas does have a coach and he's a big time talent

seems strange wrote:

Just looking at the results from Wisonsin and I noticed a strange pattern for Stanford.

Both mens and womens team leaders for Stanford have each been with the team for about 7-weeks. #1 Man (5th yr transfer) and #1 Woman (new freshman).

Maybe it's just coincidental, but how could it be that both teams are being led by people that the current coach really hasn't worked with, and yet 2 longer-term key runners for each squad seem to be done/out for the season.

Doesn't that seem odd?

That is great for Thomas Graham. Better for him to be in an environment that actually brings him up rather than down. Great race.

Read more:

Graham is an awesome kid and he quit for several reasons. He gets along with Milt and greatly respects but just wasn't progression. Look out, he is in for a huuuuuge year.

cut? wrote:

Graham is an awesome kid and he quit for several reasons. He gets along with Milt and greatly respects but just wasn't progression. Look out, he is in for a huuuuuge year.

Come on now. This string of posts doesn't add up.

So qre we to believe that Thomas Graham continues to train and race, also thinks the world of the Stanford coach, but doesn't want to race for Stanford? That is about strange a story as I've ever heard.

I have the solution for Stanford. Let Thomas train on his own, then throw a Stanford jersey on him and let him race for the team.

What about working with the individual with some flexibility here?

Expect Graham to finish his academic career at Stanford, and then run a 5th year for a contender.

If I were a supporter of this program I'd be asking some tough questions about not only Thomas Graham, but also Cayla Hatton. Both of these top-ranked recruits were recruited the year before Mittlenberg arrived and have since quit the team. Then the injury roster this year speaks for itself. Not every athlete works out but at some point bad luck points to more systemic problems with the program and its coaching.

I can tell you that the track association at my school would be very concerned about at a runner of Thomas Graham's caliber running on his own in collegiate races and not for the team.