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Its a fad as much as being vegan is a fad. I'm really just anti-wheat since wheat is the devil but it's easier just saying you're GF. Whole wheat bread vs a candy bar, the candy bar is healthier.

seriously.... wrote:

Its a fad as much as being vegan is a fad. I'm really just anti-wheat since wheat is the devil but it's easier just saying you're GF. Whole wheat bread vs a candy bar, the candy bar is healthier.

THIS.

There are no health benefits in grains, no matter if whole or not.

Plain sugar basically gives you the same insulin response but none of the other side effects.

Gluten is the Latin name for "glue," and signifies the doughy complex of proteins within the wheat plant, further classified as either gliadins (alcohol soluble), glutelins (dilute acid or alkalis soluble), or other. Because wheat is a hexaploid species, the byproduct of three ancestor plants becoming one, with no less than 6 sets of chromosomes and 6.5 times more genes than found in the human genome, it is capable of producing no less than 23,788 different proteins. Those proteins slowly wreak havoc on your insides.

The immune reactions they incite slowly erode the intestinal wall, creating increasingly severe problems over a long period of time. Because of that immune response, gluten acts as an "intestinal abrasive". It sandpapers the intestinal wall it is so thin that it no longer functions properly.

The symptoms take so long to develop, in fact, that you get used to them. "That's just the way things are", you think, or: "That's just what happens when you get older." But you can become so used to them that they feel "normal". So large numbers of people take aspirin for their constant headaches, for example, never realizing that their diet is causing the problem. But it may very well be that you don't have to live with the symptoms you've become accustomed to, and that you don't have to take drugs to deal with them.

Try avoiding wheat and similar grains, including beer, for 30 days. You will feel more alive. Inflammation will subside. Recovery time will shorten. You will lose water weight and look more "cut".

Furthermore, eat some carbs with real nutritional value. See the vegetable family and enjoy food that is alive, rather than processed and stored for years.

Wow this was very informative and helpful! I eat a pretty healthy diet, but I have always wondered if I would feel better if I ate more clean. This was very helpful. Thank you very much.

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tetrahydrocannabinol runner wrote:

makes your d!ck fly off

The pyramid is upside down!

If you don't have celiac disease, there's no reason to avoid gluten

Gut call wrote:

Try avoiding wheat and similar grains, including beer, for 30 days. You will feel more alive. Inflammation will subside. Recovery time will shorten. You will lose water weight and look more "cut".

Furthermore, eat some carbs with real nutritional value. See the vegetable family and enjoy food that is alive, rather than processed and stored for years.

When I went GF and stopped eating anything processed I lost what little gut I had in about 6 weeks. I was 48, that's not easy at that age. I'm almost 50 and the weight I'm at now I didn't think was possible w/o running 80+ miles a week. I still wake up in the morning with an almost euphoric feeling because I feel so good. When you feel that good you have no desire to eat crap. You have no idea how good you can really can feel if you just cut out wheat, processed, sugar and mix in some healthy fats. And trust me, I still get eat plenty of carbs.

Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:

There are no health benefits in grains, no matter if whole or not.

Plain sugar basically gives you the same insulin response but none of the other side effects.

As usual, you are 100% wrong. If you were actually trolling, it wouldn't be funny anymore, but anyone who really has read your posts knows you are actually serious, which instead makes just plain sad.

Gluten wrote:

Wow this was very informative and helpful! I eat a pretty healthy diet, but I have always wondered if I would feel better if I ate more clean. This was very helpful. Thank you very much.

Actually (unless you have celiac's) it was a complete heaping load of crap.

And what the f-ck does "if ate more clean" mean ?? Is your food dirty? THEN WASH IT DAMMIT, BUT CUT THE NONSENSICAL PHRASES FROM YOUR DIET LINGO.

I can eat gluten fine, I haven't noticed any difference when I eat gluten versus when I cut it out.

My boyfriend has diagnosed celiac disease so if we are spending a lot of time together/cooking/sharing meals I will 'second-hand' eat gluten free. But even when I start eating gluten again I don't notice a difference.

But some people, regardless of if they have celiac disease or not, seem to respond to a gluten free diet in positive ways. Not sure if it's placebo effect or what, though.

Just eat potatoes instead of wheat, problem solved. Corn is not as good but it doesn't have the grain-gluten that Old World grains do.

Yes corn is a grain... Millennia ago it was grass, but somehow it was cross-bred to grow gigantic seed pods. Nobody knows how it was done. Potatoes are roots and are not grains at all. Both are New World inventions, far superior to their Old World counterparts, whose introduction to Europe enabled the population explosion that led to the industrial revolution.

Are potatoes really good for you? Or just a solid substitute for wheat? What are other good substitutions?

I'm also interested in celiac recovery stories. My mother has celiac and I am dealing with similar symptoms such as constipation, GI issues, fatigue, brain fog and the iconic dermatitis herptiformis on my elbows which is triggered by the sun.

I got tested but the test came back negative which surprised me. Thinking about attempting a gluten free diet just to see what happens.

Where do you guys get most of your carbs, vegetables? How has it effected training?

xenonscreams wrote:

http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

If you don't have celiac disease, there's no reason to avoid gluten

I don't believe the evidence supports that statement and I don't think you can make that conclusion from that article. There is an abundance of evidence in the scientific establishment despite the dogma of the medical/human health establishment.

I think "gut call" above did a pretty good post but suggesting that everyone will have the same experience goes too far. Some people appear to be able to digest and absorb the gluten family of proteins perfectly well. I think lineage plays a very big part in this. There is also the question of the amount of food of nutritional value that gets displaced from the diet when you use wheat products as staples. Wheat/gluten may not actually be the problem for some, they may just be a proxy for malnutrition. There isn't much in wheat apart from a bunch of glucose and a pitiful amount of protein that you may or may not be able to use. Oh, and also perhaps some micronutrients that were added in by law since food scientists knew decades ago the potential negative impact on public health boosting cereal intake would have, hence the introduction of fortification (fortification is not mandatory in the UK like it is in the US, but everyone does it anyway).

I totally support the recommendation to do an abstinence test and to start getting your carbs from nutritious sources like "gut call" says. For me the difference was apparent within a matter of days but I maintain that not everyone will see a change. Some may struggle with the difficulty of getting enough carbs in without wheat, which can be a challenge when you shun refined carb sources.

As a little anecdote since someone was interested, during marathon training this year I quite frankly got tired of eating so many sweet potatoes and starting drinking a lot of sugary drinks to get the fuel in. I doubt this was particularly good for me but my health and recovery were still far, far better than when I was using wheat as a staple (frequent colds, reynauds, skin conditions, slow-healing wounds, GI problems, asthma, hayfever, all completely gone).

Good luck.

p.s. If something is in a packet with the label "gluten-free" it's probably processed garbage and you shouldn't eat it. Good food doesn't come in a packet with numbers or slogans.

Wheat wrote:

Are potatoes really good for you? Or just a solid substitute for wheat? What are other good substitutions?

First of all, get your macros in check. More likely than not, you're overconsuming carbs.

Replace grains with meat and veggies. Then look at fruits. Then potatoes. At last, you can add some white rice - yes, technically grains but not with the same side effects as wheat.