90 mpw mostly on pavement. 6"0, 150 lbs. Fore/midfoot striker.
No pronation issues. Kinda wide feet. Used to shoes with a low offset.
I currently do the bulk of my milage in Sauncony Kinvaras. I'd like another pair to rotate with the Kinvaras for my easy/distance runs. Any suggestions?
bump i'm curious too
I liked the spaciousness of the kinvaras but the soles were to squishing and unresponsive. Ghosts are in the same ballpark but with a stiffer sole. I've had them in my rotation for the past couple of years.
guywithfeet wrote:
90 mpw mostly on pavement. 6"0, 150 lbs. Fore/midfoot striker.
No pronation issues. Kinda wide feet. Used to shoes with a low offset.
I currently do the bulk of my milage in Sauncony Kinvaras. I'd like another pair to rotate with the Kinvaras for my easy/distance runs. Any suggestions?
1st version of nike lunaracer, 2nd not as good, 3rd version good.
Most shoes are probably suited, but mentioning it still;
I'll be running in winterly conditions of 20-40 degrees
Some googling yielded these alternatives:
Skechers Ride 3
Merrel Mix Master Move
Saucony Cortana
Check out the new Hoka Clifton!
Any takes on Pearl Izumi Road N2?
Brooks Pure Flow.
NB 980.
Hoka Clifton.
All are lightweight, 4-5 mm drop shoes with quite a bit of cushioning considering their weight -- just like the Kinvara.
Just got recomemnded the Puma Faas 500s, seems to be in the same ballpark as the kinvaras.
Mizuno Hitogami is similar in weight/feel to the Kinvara, but with a higher heel drop.
The Brooks Pure Flow and/or Pure Connect are also options - same heel drop and weight, but a stiffer feel.
I am a huge fan of the Kinvara as well. Ran all my marathons past 4 years in them. I find the new adidas boston boost (Boston 5) more responsive and more cushioned and I don't notice the extra half ounce. I just did a 5 min PR in the boston boost at Chicago and they felt great the entire time. My feet always got numb last few miles in the Kinvaras.
darkwave wrote:
Mizuno Hitogami is similar in weight/feel to the Kinvara, but with a higher heel drop.
The Brooks Pure Flow and/or Pure Connect are also options - same heel drop and weight, but a stiffer feel.
Err...I need to correct - it's the Mizuno Sayonara that is similar to the Kinvara; the Hitogami is a bit lighter/firmer.
I wish Saucony would make the Kinvara in a 2E or 4E. For my easy runs, I just love the Asics Nimbus. Yes, they are heavier than some other shoes, but they are fairly neutral and have a fabulous feel. I like saving my lighter shoes for races.
They do make them in 2E. Or at least they did when I worked at a running specialty store.
Just re-checked Running Warehouse, and there is nothing but D widths. The Sauc Web site shows the same. I do not know how so many people can fit a D shoe. My foot is not even that wide and I always need a 2E or 4E.
Love the Hoka clifton. Not big and bulky like a normal Hoka, bit with mote cushioning than the Kinvara or lunar racer (10 mm h-t drop on those kills me now though.) Clifton has replaced both those for me.
I use the Ride 7 and the Kinvara in a rotation. The Ride 7 is very light and a great update.
I also run in kinvaras. My second pair of shoes is a pair of the brooks pure flow. They are quite similar, although the pure flow seems a bit thicker and more cushioned.
guywithfeet wrote:
Any takes on Pearl Izumi Road N2?
Looks a bit on the firm side compared to the kinvaras, can anyone confirm?
A6 - Lighter, stiffer with less cushion. More ground feel. Same 4mm drop, and very close to the same fit as Kinvara. Feels very fast. The best shoe I've ever worn for racing or interval training.
Pureflow 3 - Heavier, softer, heelcup is much better, 4mm drop, fit is near the same. Less ground feel. Much prefered over kinvara 5 for long distance or recovery runs. I really love the toe box.
Newton DIII - Lighter, closer to A6, que's on awareness of form easily, feels fast, a little more of a sloppy fit in comparison to kinvara but a great shoe. 2-3mm drop, closer to transition to zero drop.
gobionic - zero drop, bigger toe box, closer to the ground with lots of ground feel but squishy soft landing. Weight is near the same. The newest gobionic has a 4mm insert making it even closer feel to the kinvara, but a different flavor. I actually prefer this shoe most for training and HM+ racing.
noteable mentions: Adidas Hagios 2, Adidas Takumi Sen, Go Run 3, NB 1400 v2, Mizuno Wave Ekiden