In his pre-race interview he says his training has gone well. He has been with the Hansons for a while now, so this should be a good test of their program.
The Chicago pre-race preview neglects his 27:46 this year which (I think) is the 2nd best by an American this year.
Hansons go 1-2 for U.S.A. in solid times. Long live the best American marathon training group!
Ackley wrote:
He has been with the Hansons for a while now, so this should be a good test of their program.
Less than 2 years performing under the Hansons program. Went from 2:16 to 2:13 to 2:11. Probably a sub 2:10 in another 16 months.
Bowerman is the Boss wrote:
Less than 2 years performing under the Hansons program. Went from 2:16 to 2:13 to 2:11. Probably a sub 2:10 in another 16 months.
He is a 27:20 guy.
I hope he runs well under 2:10. 2:11 is not a great time for a 27 minute 10k runner.
troof be told wrote:
Hansons go 1-2 for U.S.A. in solid times. Long live the best American marathon training group!
Two of America's best (Jeff Eggleston and Nic Arciniaga) got smart and broke free from the Hansons to ultimately run faster. Bobby is much more talented, yet continues to underperform. Not impressed.
Learn and improve. What was Eggleston's best under Hanson? You may be right I never knew he ran one. I know that Arciniaga finished top 10 on a tough NY course and beat Abdi in the process. The same Abdi that went on to make the Olympic Team in the Marathon a couple years later. How much faster has Arciniaga run at NY since leaving the Hansons? Probably find out in a couple weeks how much improvement has taken place over the past 4 years.
Has Curtis really underperformed as to anything?
He was a 4:07 8:52 3200M runner in HS, did not win FL
Has run 3:57 mile
13:18
27:24
2:11 marathon
4th at Nc's Cross losing to really good guys
won Nc's 5K beating 13:18 Vaughn that year
Is it that bad, or is it pretty solid
Only Ritz, Solinsky and Rupp have run that much better, and Hall I guess and Webb
He won the NCAA outdoor 5k and was runner up to Solinsky a previous year.
How is Solinsky's career in the marathon going? What has Teg done since his 2:12? How much under 2:11 did Todd Williams go? What ended up happening with Mark Nenow in the marathon? How about Bob Kennedy?
The point is simple 10k and the marathon are NOT the same event.
Simon Bairu ran 27.23, and was a XC stud (two NCAA titles) - how did his marathon career go?
Agree with child here - the two don't necessarily go together. It could be a function of training but could also be biomechanics.
Some people take to the marathon quickly anyway (Wanjiru) and some take several tries - Geb or Tergat.
Right now running a 2h11 could put Curtis on the team in 2016 given the dynamics of the US marathon scene at the moment - Meb (geeting older), Hall (so inconsistent), Ritz (often injured), Abdi (who knows?). Just waiting for some younger guys to step it up to sub-2h10, which may be enough.
Not sure what the problem is with the anti-Hanson's comments. Jerry S. isn't developing a ton of marathoners and AlSal has Rupp (who may not move up by then anyway), not even Ritz anymore. So it's not like there are a boatload of training groups in the USA developing sub-2h10 marathoners, so any that are even trying is a good thing IMO.
That there aren't more people stepping right into the marathon after College says that the NCAA isn't helping in the pursuit of marathon development (not its job either really), so that ANY groups are better than none at all.
Even though the marathon is like nothing else, I think what freaks people out is we have guys with way better under side than some old timers had and they cannot even approach thosse marks
The skill sets seem to be a little more disparate than you would think.
I thought Curtis might be a next level at least in the U.S. type guy, 27:24 ,solid Cross guy and it seems he can average 5 minutes now or there abouts, but the next level drop is avg'ing 4:50;s and that's a pretty big leap
Could he get there? Maybe I guess, you would think it would happen by now, he will be 30 in November, late.
It is pretty obvious by now to see what it takes on World Level
If you cannot run 2:03.xx=2:04 tops , OR have that in you whether you had to use it or not, you ain't winning shit.
Clearly Chicago winner had way more than the time he needed in him, he look spectacular.
Races will be won in slower for sure, but top level guys , have kind of set the bar for what level is required in a big spot.
Bowerman is the Boss wrote:
I know that Arciniaga finished top 10 on a tough NY course and beat Abdi in the process in 2009 as a Hanson team member. The same Abdi that went on to make the Olympic Team in the Marathon a couple years later. How much faster has Arciniaga run at NY since leaving the Hansons? Probably find out in a couple weeks how much improvement has taken place over the past 4 years.
He was 2:13 and top 10 in 2009. 10 days until we measure his improvement over the last 5 years.
Abdi will be like 47 come Rio. He won't be on the team. Arciniaga has a shot. Ryan Vail will be on it, along with Ritz and Curis if he is healthy...
Thanks for deciding the team. If you're so confident, go to Vegas and place a large bet, but I doubt you'll do that:)Vail will be on it, along with Ritz and Curtis if he is healthy. But Arciniaga has a shot? Hmmmm...so 4 guys are going or is this another open-ended answer to make yourself feel smart?
ytrewq wrote:
Abdi will be like 47 come Rio. He won't be on the team. Arciniaga has a shot. Ryan Vail will be on it, along with Ritz and Curis if he is healthy...
You're an idiot. I'm saying person A will be too old. Person B is not out of the competition.Person C will be on it.And if person D and E are healthy they can also qualify. It all depends who is healthy.
I have been a Ritz fan for his entire career but he is not aging well. He went into the last trials healthy but lacking the necessary base because he wasn't healthy for a large part of the 2yrs prior. He was unable to pull it off. He is only getting older and therefore his health is even more important this time around. If he is currently hurt or has any setbacks between now and February 2016, then he is done.
No, you're an idiot. I never mentioned person A in my response. B,C,D, and E are 4 people. If and buts were candy and nuts it would be Christmas every day. What a risk taker you are...amazing!It all depends on who's healthy? Duh!!!!!! Really? Wow, way to go out on a limb know-it-all. Post your email and I'll bet you that out of the four you picked, 3 won't make it. Hint: You're forgetting a few runners numbnuts. You know nothing about elite marathoning, give it a rest big guy.
ytrewq wrote:
You're an idiot. I'm saying person A will be too old. Person B is not out of the competition.Person C will be on it.And if person D and E are healthy they can also qualify. It all depends who is healthy.
Who has a serious chance of making it then? Let's talk privately about this
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Am I living in the twilight zone? The Boston Marathon weather was terrible!
Is there a rule against attaching a helium balloon to yourself while running a road race?
How rare is it to run a sub 5 minute mile AND bench press 225?
Move over Mark Coogan, Rojo and John Kellogg share their 3 favorite mile workouts
Mark Coogan says that if you could only do 3 workouts as a 1500m runner you should do these
Matt Choi was drinking beer halfway through the Boston Marathon