If Bernard Lagat's longevity is due to PEDs...

Ask Rupp what his secret magic juice is. Rupp is forever improving. Lagat has been steadily slowing.

Dude at age 28 he was running 3:26... He's beating today's 28 year olds but he ain't beating his 28-year-old self.

I was about to mention the fact that he's slower than ever but is seems others have already done that.

I mean, here, check out his 1500m progression

http://oi62.tinypic.com/jziteg.jpg

In any case, as he's gotten slower, he's become a better racer. And in today's championship races, that's good enough.

You don't get it.We're talking 8 seconds over 1500m. To the average fatty joe who wants to look 20 again, that 8/250th difference is not going to do anything.

HarryMetSally wrote:

If he can run like a 28-year-old at 39,

I'll have what he's having.

Seriously, if there's a drug that can make you feel 10 years younger, stop wasting your time selling under the table to athletes in a niche sport. There's a huge market out there waiting to be tapped.

Just another doppign Kenyan. Nothing to see here folks. Doping back when he tested positive and he's likely dopping now.

Galen Rupp Number on Fan wrote:

Just another doppign Kenyan. Nothing to see here folks. Doping back when he tested positive and he's likely dopping now.

Let's say hypothetically that you're 100% correct and he's doping.

All that means is that a doping 39 year old is STILL crushing legions of doping 20-30 year olds.

I was about to rebut with, "What about Nick Willis? He's running fast at about age 40." And then I googled his age: 31. He looks old as sh*t. Bernie is aging well. I guess the saying is true -- good black don't crack.

Seyta wrote:

All that means is that a doping 39 year old is STILL crushing legions of doping 20-30 year olds.

Do you really think the typical 20-30 year old kenyan has the same doping technlogy as say Lagat or Rupp?

HarryMetSally wrote:

If he can run like a 28-year-old at 39,

I'll have what he's having.

Seriously, if there's a drug that can make you feel 10 years younger, stop wasting your time selling under the table to athletes in a niche sport. There's a huge market out there waiting to be tapped.

My assumption is that BL has been doping for a long, long time and also lies about his training (understating it greatly, along with his sleep, etc.)

The problem with "stop wasting your time selling under the table to athletes in a niche sport. There's a huge market out there waiting to be tapped" is that the USSA is still engaged in a fruitless "War on Drugs" (in fact a war on drug users) and so while some PEDs are legal under some circumstances (TRT, EPO for severe anemia, amphetamines for ADHD, etc.) most are not, certainly not in the most effective (higher) dosages.

Fortunately, drug prohibition doesn't prevent people from making massive amounts of money selling PEDs--it just isn't legal money, and sales are therefore clandestine. Since anabolic steroids were made a controlled substance in the USSA about 23 years ago, sales have gone through the roof. Unfortunately, many of these drugs are now made in meth-lab like conditions...

Isn't it funny that since the new tests came out East African have gotten slower across the board and yet two US-based East Africans are still making their cases as the greatest distance runners ever?

It seems that during the EPO era the secret was to "train" in the rift valley and now the secret is to "train" in Flagstaff or with Salazar.

Breathe in breathe out wrote:

Dude at age 28 he was running 3:26... He's beating today's 28 year olds but he ain't beating his 28-year-old self.

He moved up in distance and is not pursuing fast 1500's anymore. He would rather run 5000's.

His 13:07 this year is, according to World Master's Athletics, an age-graded 12:29. And he nearly beat all-purpose-mid-D GOAT Augustine Choge, who is only 27 and is the only man to run sub-1:45, sub 3:30, sub 7:30 and sub 12:55.

Not everyone ages the same. Aging is a biological process not a temporal one.

their all on drugs wrote:

Do u think they have as strict of testing as Lagat n Rupp?

How strict was the testing on US Postal? Zero positives buddy. It's amazing what America can do when they pour money into something.