Adrian Peterson has allegedly beaten the hell out of his child. This is terrible. Ray Rice should not have beaten up his woman, but at least she was an adult. Having been beaten up many times by a woman, I know how terrible it feels. Ray Rice beat up a grown woman, but a child has NO defense.
winny the loser wrote:
Adrian Peterson has allegedly beaten the hell out of his child. This is terrible. Ray Rice should not have beaten up his woman, but at least she was an adult. Having been beaten up many times by a woman, I know how terrible it feels. Ray Rice beat up a grown woman, but a child has NO defense.
Ray Rice's fiancee was hitting him and spitting on him. He hit her once. Adrian Peterson left his son out in cold to get frostbite and never took him to hospital. He had bad run-in with a cop in Houston that was swept under carpet. This is far worse than what ray Rice did.
AP has kids all over the place. Apparently, he beat this 4 year old so bad that 2 separate doctors took photos and the mom pressed charges. A grand jury agreed it was child abuse and he is going to be charged. From his tweets, it sounds like AP really enjoyed beating the hell out this kid with a switch. Nice going AP!
bladerunner wrote:
AP has kids all over the place. Apparently, he beat this 4 year old so bad that 2 separate doctors took photos and the mom pressed charges. A grand jury agreed it was child abuse and he is going to be charged. From his tweets, it sounds like AP really enjoyed beating the hell out this kid with a switch. Nice going AP!
His lawyer from the Houston run-in with cop, Rusty Hardin, is already on damage control, citing Adrian's repeated beatings by a switch as a child as a form of discipline. Beating a child to the degree that he apparently did is 100 times worse than Ray Rice knocking out his attacking wife with a single punch.
Beat the kid with a switch. Cue up the "My dad made me pick out the switch that he beat me with and I turned out ok" refrain from the apologists any minute now. I bet Goodell lost it when he heard this. The hits keep coming for the NFL.
Where in the "F" do we get these guys ??
Former Football fan wrote:
Where in the "F" do we get these guys ??
The NFL...National Felon League.
Let's see how the media and Internet lynch mob responds to this one....
Dolomite wrote:
Let's see how the media and Internet lynch mob responds to this one....
Well they have pics so that always helps the media machine. If they had video it'd be a done deal. AP would be out.
Former Football fan wrote:
Where in the "F" do we get these guys ??
The correct answer is the ghetto and broken homes.
These people were not raised by good, healthy people and therefore a large percentage of them are neither good nor healthy.
Add a bunch of steroids and brain damage into the mix, and here we are.
You say beat, AP and I say disciplined.
xfit_guy_the_realer_2 wrote:
You say beat, AP and I say disciplined.
In "The Shining", the care taker who hacked up his 2 daughters with an axe says "I corrected them".
A little severe, I suppose. Thankfully, AP is much gentler.
After finally watching that Ray Rice video, several things crossed my mind. What are you supposed to do when your wife or girlfriend is attacking you?
Even if you outweigh them by 100 pounds what legally can you do to stop that, or are you not allowed to do anything?
If he slapped her do you think she think she would have stopped? No way that would have made her even angrier. He knew she would have hit him 10 times in three seconds.
I guess the law would say you can't react in a potentially lethal force unless you have a serious reason to believe that your very life is in danger.
I guess he could have put her in a bear hug and tried to reason with her. Or the most sensible thing to do was to take her abuse for the rest of the elevator ride. Then walk away and leave her and get his own room.
It wasn't like I thought initially, that he squared away and hauled off from an attacking stance. And it sure was no cheap sucker punch.
He made a fist, and she walked into a short jab with her face and her lights went out.
As far as Peterson, he took a branch in disciplining a child, the same way I'm sure he was disciplined as a boy. From the doctor's photos the punishment looked overly severe. There were some superficial lacerations. My grandfather did the same thing to me, less severe, when I was 5 and scratched his new car. Took a thin branch ( at least he didn't make me go get it) and whipped me about 15 times on the back of my leg. That was 1972. In the major scheme, both cases should be scrutinized by due process and what the law defines. In the long run, maybe the fact that these big money people, in the new age of media, behaving or reacting in ways like millions have for generations without being known or arrested, will go down as examples set to create real societal change.
But we all know that is BS. With the 24 hour news cycle and the internet there will always be media trying to drive stories and big money people breaking laws will always the number one seller.
That's why Ray Rice was terminated. Only until the NFL knew that the public saw that video did they rid themselves immediately of Rice. These aren't really legal decisions they are business decisions.
Petersen does need to be investigated, especially considering children being involved. I don't know if legally you are allowed to spank a kid on the buttocks any more? Maybe as long as there isn't a bruise.
What do you do if you girlfriend is attacking you? Short of her having a gun, you submit her ass. It's pretty easy to submit someone 100# lighter (and weaker sex) than you.
Fvck, have you never been in a domestic abuse situation? My sister used to pound on my chest and do all sorts of sh!t. My response was never to punch her in the face, like Ray Rice! In fact, I never had any response. You take the pathetic blows to your chest or slaps to your face and then close the door in her face and wait for her to calm down while she punches and yells at the door. Simple. I did that several times growing up, and my sister was 7 years older than me, and she actually had a big physical advantage over me. If I had outweighed her by 100#, I probably would have laughed in her face and just pushed her away. Ray Rice has no problem with stiff arms on the field, but can't keep a woman 100# lighter than him away from him? Haha. The dude is a woman abuser. No question.
Peterson beat a 4yo kid to the point of bleeding. He's fvcked up and needs counseling. There's no defense for that kind of behavior.
It wasn't just bruises, it was obviously cuts and lacerations. Look at the photos. Legs, hands, thighs, scrotum. How is it okay for a full grown man to beat up a 4-year-old kid? Hope this scum lands in prison.
I guess those wanting to say Janay started it have not seen the ENTIRE video. The one where he spits on her before they ever enter the elevator and then he spits on her a 2nd time once they are in the elevator. That is then when she takes a swing at him, and appear to miss...and then he cold cocks her.
George Atlas wrote:
After finally watching that Ray Rice video, several things crossed my mind. What are you supposed to do when your wife or girlfriend is attacking you?
Even if you outweigh them by 100 pounds what legally can you do to stop that, or are you not allowed to do anything?
You hold her arms, look her in the eyes, and tell her to calm the f**k down. Easy as that.
I also don't buy the argument that "women want equality, therefore, if they attack me, I can hit back."
FALSE
Let's get this straight: men and women are NOT PHYSIOLOGICALLY EQUAL.
As runners we know this holds true at all levels of the sport. All you have to do is look at the huge difference in world records. Women will NEVER be as fast or as strong as men. They have smaller hearts, much less testosterone, less muscle, smaller frames, weaker bones, and shorter stature.
A man must know and recognize this fact and keep it in mind when and if a woman attacks him. If a man is attacked, 99% of the time it is by a woman who is physically weaker than the man, and unless that woman is threatening his life there is no reason to apply any physical force beyond restraining her.
In the RARE case that a woman with equal or greater strength attacks, and you fear for your safety, then I'd say it's okay to hit back.
Janay Rice did not meet either criteria. She is not as strong as an All Pro NFL RB. And she was not threatening Ray Rice's life. She did not have a weapon nor was equipped with any knowledge of martial arts that could be used to seriously harm someone. Ray's actions are disgusting, inexcusable, and he has no right to represent the NFL.
I wonder why we never hear about the criminal acts of NFL owners?
Just the players. And usually only the black ones.
I guess these guys who spent their lives accumulating massive wealth are just really nice people who never do anything wrong.
George, your post should be in the hall of fame of moronic posts on this site (no easy accomplishment). Did you watch the RR video. Before the elevator, she dismissively flicks her back hand at his mouth, clearly after he sais something. He follows her into the elevator and after some words hits her. That is when she moves toward him where she received the NO blow. At no point was he defending himself.
I have no words for the AP incident. His son was 4. What the hell could he have possibly done to "deserve" the beating (not discipline) that be received. Find out what the kid told police. He's terrified of his "dad."