Shorter ran the Indy Mini course today in 2:04. Reports were he had to hold back considerably. It's a promotion to "run faster than Frank" next May, $1 will be given to charity for every runner who breaks Frank's 2:04. Shorter won the first Indy Mini in 1977 in 1:03:56.
One wonders what Frank could run if he wasn't holding back. 1:30? Faster?
927 pace? Not bad for a 66 year old guy with probably 140-150k miles on his legs
Ole Timer wrote:
Shorter ran the Indy Mini course today in 2:04. Reports were he had to hold back considerably. It's a promotion to "run faster than Frank" next May, $1 will be given to charity for every runner who breaks Frank's 2:04. Shorter won the first Indy Mini in 1977 in 1:03:56.
One wonders what Frank could run if he wasn't holding back. 1:30? Faster?
1:30? I seriously doubt it. I'd bet he'd have trouble breaking 1:50.
The record for a 66 year old is 1:19..
Didn't know Frank even ran anymore.
Doubting Fred wrote:
Ole Timer wrote:Shorter ran the Indy Mini course today in 2:04. Reports were he had to hold back considerably. It's a promotion to "run faster than Frank" next May, $1 will be given to charity for every runner who breaks Frank's 2:04. Shorter won the first Indy Mini in 1977 in 1:03:56.
One wonders what Frank could run if he wasn't holding back. 1:30? Faster?
1:30? I seriously doubt it. I'd bet he'd have trouble breaking 1:50.
Exactly. If he were still in sub-1:30 shape he would have to try really, really, really hard to run slower than 9:30 pace.
agc5k wrote:
927 pace? Not bad for a 66 year old guy with probably 140-150k miles on his legs
Shouldn't that make him faster? I thought "lifetime miles" was the letsrun mantra.
Are you saying miles slow us down?
It's Frank Shorter people...2:04 it's a joke for him...it's like his "easy 10's" with Pre, back in the 70's. Just that he probably don't want to train, put mileage, or run raster than, let's say... 1:50...
I saw months ago an actual vídeo of Waldemar Cierpinsky jogging...i bet that1:50 for these guys it's the most natural thing in the world. Let alone 2:04.
Ben L Wrong wrote:
I saw months ago an actual vídeo of Waldemar Cierpinsky jogging...i bet that1:50 for these guys it's the most natural thing in the world. Let alone 2:04.
Shorter is no Waldemar.
Hobbyjogger!
That's right, Frank didn't JUICE.
Ole Timer wrote:
Shorter ran the Indy Mini course today in 2:04.
sucks
agc5k wrote:
927 pace? Not bad for a 66 year old guy with probably 140-150k miles on his legs
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What are you talking about? I ran an 8:28 pace for the half at 68 years old and I never broke 36 min for 10K. I started running at 31.
I'm what a lot of you consider a hobby jogger and I have consistently run 7:54-8:30 pace for the half the last 3 years.
If I could run a 1:43 at 66 years old I'm sure Shorter could run well under 1:25.
I have 60k on my legs.
I don't think you realize how crippled some of those old guys are.
Shorter has had his hip(s?) replaced. 2:04 isn't THAT surprising.
Strw M Thoroughman wrote:
agc5k wrote:927 pace? Not bad for a 66 year old guy with probably 140-150k miles on his legs
Shouldn't that make him faster? I thought "lifetime miles" was the letsrun mantra.
Are you saying miles slow us down?
if you're young and have a good base it helps for long distance and gets you in shape faster. But at a point, you get old and now all those miles have a negative effect. Like if Frank started running at age 30 instead of in HS, he'd be faster at 60. Make sense?
Yes...people forget this. I heard him speak last year. He didn't even look really comfortable walking but said he was still running some but not over an hour in a day.
Ho Hum wrote:
Shorter has had his hip(s?) replaced. 2:04 isn't THAT surprising.
By Kevin Gleason
also by Justin Rodriguez
Times Herald-Record
Published: 2:00 AM - 06/14/10
MIDDLETOWN — Frank Shorter finally learned the source of most of his leg and foot injuries the past decade. His left hip. X-rays revealed the hip totally arthritic. So Shorter went in for what he amusingly referred to on Sunday as a "160,000-mile maintenance.'' He had hip resurfacing surgery, a procedure less invasive than the total hip replacement. That was only six months ago. And so Shorter, who grew up in Middletown, ran the Rowley 5K instead of the 10K at The Classic. Speaking to the field before the 5K, Shorter told them he had only one request when runners passed him. "As long as you tell me I'm looking good.''
Shorter clocked 34:29, 178th place out of 316 finishers, and made it to the 10K starting line in time for a pre-race speech.
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100614/SPORTS/6140322/-1/SPORTS
agc5k wrote:
Strw M Thoroughman wrote:Shouldn't that make him faster? I thought "lifetime miles" was the letsrun mantra.
Are you saying miles slow us down?
if you're young and have a good base it helps for long distance and gets you in shape faster. But at a point, you get old and now all those miles have a negative effect. Like if Frank started running at age 30 instead of in HS, he'd be faster at 60. Make sense?
Straw Man all too frequently lives up to his name.
FRANK SHORTER GOES HOME DEVASTATED!!!!!!!
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