Could I get into an IVY?

My son had almost exact same grades, ACT and SAT stats and didn't get into UNC in state. Here is what admissions rep from Duke told me, "we turn down half of the perfect SAT applicants we get"

First, duke doesnt turn down half perfect sat apps they get and the ones they do are asians w/ zero seperation from all of the other asians like them.

Your son probably didnt have good ex cirricular activities, I do: Student council, loads of community service, band, paid tutor, running, etc.

Duke has already tried to recruit me.-So that should be all i have to say.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Typical for a kid your age. My son was a varsity football player, Eagle Scout and had tons of community service. You are wrong about Duke and you really show how stupid you are when you brag about paid tutors. Schools don't give a crap that you had a "paid" tutor. Every asswipe has a paid tutor and the kids that don't but have the same scores as you are more prized. Here is the deal,your scores are ok if your are white. If you are a person of color or gay you have an edge. If you have a varsity sport talent that the school wants you may have a edge. I know it's hard to hear that you are not special but you are not special outside of your tiny world.

not unless you're a very rare minority

Try Brown/Cornell

Never tired, always hungry wrote:

32:Act

2100:SAT

3.7UW: GPA

3.85W GPA

Class rank 90:600-Competitive school

4:17.6x mile

1:58-800m at altitude-4000ft

9:25.2x 2mile

6th in state junior year in a pretty Competitive state

Senior year now-Ranked 2nd or 3rd.

If not an Ivy which schools, Im looking to major in Pre Med, but i dont want to pick a college based on that b/c ill probably change my mind.

I might qualify for nxn this year as a senior.

Purely based on academics I would say your chances are less than 20%, but because of your running, I would say your chances are pretty good if you apply to several schools. Your Ivy chances are certainly good enough to give it a shot. For premed, give Duke and JH a look, they are on pretty much on par with the Ives and are about as hard to get into. Btw, your academics are very good, but there are so many great students out there that your running will probably be your ticket.

You sound perfect for Chowan College.

Never tired, always hungry wrote:

32:Act

2100:SAT

3.7UW: GPA

3.85W GPA

Class rank 90:600-Competitive school

4:17.6x mile

1:58-800m at altitude-4000ft

9:25.2x 2mile

6th in state junior year in a pretty Competitive state

Senior year now-Ranked 2nd or 3rd.

If not an Ivy which schools, Im looking to major in Pre Med, but i dont want to pick a college based on that b/c ill probably change my mind.

I might qualify for nxn this year as a senior.

Why would an Ivy take someone ranked 90th out of 600?

Lol I am a paid tutor, i didnt mean I have one- I dont normally. Varsity Sport Talent? Did you read my times?

Well my grades acctually are increasing exponentially-3.0-3.75,4.0,Probably 4.0 this semester and I know that they wouldnt normally but im asking if they will let me in to run?

We told you ! Chowan College !

Huh?? wrote:

Why would an Ivy take someone ranked 90th out of 600?

Oh, grasshopper--if the athlete is good enough, s/he can get into a TOP Ivy (those "in the know" know the ones I'm talking about) with a worse class rank than that.

Now *staying* in that top Ivy (again, the cognoscenti know some of the folks whom I'm talking about) is a different proposition; but hey, if you help win a Heps or two before you leave, it's all good.

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Totally different subject: I see that Adam Cotton is back for his senior year at H. I'm ordinarily not a huge fan of the Cantabs, but I wish him all success.

If you qualify for NXN or FL, I'd say you're in to at least an Ivy, maybe a few / several.

Even if you don't, you have a shot, especially if you're an URM or legacy.

The other angle is your trajectory, mileage and training age. Best is huge improvement from last year (e.g., 4:35 to 4:17 mile) on low miles (`` 40) where you've only been running for 2 years. Worst is plateauing (e.g., 4:19 to 4:17 mile) with high miles (%% 70) and you've been at it since 6th grade.

If you're none of the above, I'd say the probability is < 20%, which is actually better than the general population (which is typically < 10%).

Good luck!

Join the Marines, don't pay the college industrial complex anything.

You never know unless you apply. My high school guidance counselor said I was going to get rejected from all of my top choices. I was accepted to every undergraduate and graduate program that I applied to with scholarships. So F'U Mr. Guidance counselor.

Make sure your personal statement indicates why you want to go to a particular school. Make yourself stand out to the people reading your application. If you come off as a generic good student who wants to go to Harvard because it is a great school, you are going to get rejected. Have a story about something specific you are passionate about like curing a particular disease, solving some problem in science or studying some specific type of art and then explain why going to the university you apply to is going to help you achieve your dreams. Don't be the perfect, faceless drone with perfect scores and the perfect resume. Be specific and stand out and you will have a chance to get in. Using this advice I have helped students get into top colleges like Harvard, Stanford and Princeton. It might work for you as well.

Wow your arrogant! If you know so much why are you asking on a running board. Please don't go into medicine enough of your type her already.

your GPA and class rank certainly hurt, ACT isn't great but obviously not terrible either. Running will definitely help especially with a big XC season. Send a few emails introducing yourself to the coaches and ask them what they think, typically they will be pretty honest with you.

I was a 1:55, 4:23 junior (worse at XC than you) with a 33 and 4.0 and could have gone to half the ivies but decided to go somewhere else with a great Pre-med program.

I'm guessing you are from the mountain states, definitely take a visit and see if you get along with the team as east coast vibe is definitely different than the mountain states.

go somewhere you fit in with the students/team and a place that fits your long-term goals.

You left out a fairly important detail about yourself which could make you a shoo-in

I know...shhhhh