Several people I have discussed this with expressed both of those sentiments exactly!!
I don't have a good response at this point...
Several people I have discussed this with expressed both of those sentiments exactly!!
I don't have a good response at this point...
Does anyone have experience with the best schools for a child with severe dyslexia in either area? I have looked online, but haven't been able to uncover that much in this area of education...I am sure they have intensive reading programs in bathe schools, but we need one geared solely to dyslexia. Here in Florida, the public school assigns an aide trained in a dyslexia reading program to work with our child.
Jobs...
Current careers are in finance and school administration.
How difficult is it to get hired into K-12 school administration from another state...what tips would one give to someone besides job fairs and responding to ads? We have no connections in either place...
Gaining employment in finance should be pretty simple...one would think..
As someone who currently lives on the CO front range, and has spent tons of time in Utah, this dude is spot on.
has nothing to do with lds religion
Southeasterner wrote:
Everyone's comments so far have definitely helped create a much clearer picture of the two cities. Reading online reviews and tourism sites make everything seem great in both areas. However, even though this forum can get out of hand at times depending on the topic, your comments have been really focused. Thanks.
As for weather, how bad is the snow and ice in Denver and surrounding area? We grew up in the NE, so we have experience with both snow/ slush and black ice on the roads. I've heard that it can snow 4-6" overnight, but most will melt when it hits 50's during the day...that seems extreme...
Does it really snow bad in SLC? They are on the west side of the range...doesn't it hammer them or just up at elevation?
It snows more in SLC, and it is colder there because it is in a valley. Also, the smog inversion means less sunny days.
Denver gets a fair amount of snow and most days are sunny.
Denver Academy specializes in dyslexia.
30 miles from Denver is Rocky Mountain National Park. Pretty spectacular. Two hour north is the Snowy Range. Three hours west is the Maroon Bells and Snowmass Wilderness
30 miles from Denver is Rocky Mountain National Park. Pretty spectacular. Two hour north is the Snowy Range. Three hours west is the Maroon Bells and Snowmass Wilderness
Yeah I guess I should've said, for an awesome time in the mountains Denver or SLC are obviously two of the best major cities in the US. The Bells are spectacularly beautiful.
Especially coming from the terrain deprived east coast, even those giant talus heaps I'm ripping on will be pretty sweet. I just give the edge to SLC is all.
Mormons are what make Utah interesting. They are kind of like Germans in that the place is clean and they run a tight ship. I wish the whole country was run by Mormons.
Within two hours from Denver-
Longs Peak-the Diamond. World class. Matches and exceeds anything anywhere in the lower 48.
La Plata Peak-Ellingwood Ridge
Mount of the Holy Cross-all the adventure anyone needs
Even the Kelso ridge of Torreys and the sawtooth ridge on Evans/Bierstadt beat anything in in Utah. They are 45 minutes from downtown Denver.
Alamosa is about four hours away. Blanca/Little Bear, El Diente, Crestones, Kit Carson. Lindsey. None are talus slogs. Aspen is about 3 hours away in summer. Pyramid, Capital, the Maroon Bells, Snowmass. Talus slogs? I don't think so.
Yes, of the 54 fourteeners, 40 are probably talus slogs. That leaves 14 that will take your breath away. How many do Utah, Wyoming, and Nevada combined have?
Beyond fourteeners-take a look at the three Apostles-Ice mountain is about 2 hours from Denver. It makes grown men cry. There are hundreds of peaks over 13K in Colorado. perhaps a couple in Utah, Idaho and Wyoming?
As someone who has climbed every fourteener in Colorado, and spent tons of time in Utah, these dudes are not spot on. If climbing and hiking are your thing-Colorado has far more variety and opportunity.
It really isn't about which mountains are better. It all comes down to do you want to live in a cultural backwater with bad schools and be surrounded by closed-minded mormons?
SLC is huge 1000 square mile flat slab of concrete so when it snows it's easily and quickly plowed.
"I mean, the best ski resorts in the world " ???????
you mean America ?
have you ever been to the french/swiss/italian alps?
have you ever been to whistler?
have you ever been to japan?
i am guessing not since you think your slopes are the best in the world when it is clearly and statistically not true.
i know that utah has unbelievably great runs but it'd be cool if americans would stop saying "in the world" when half of y'all haven't even been overseas ... ever. there is a big planet out there waiting for you to expand your minds in.
"I mean, the best ski resorts in the world " ???????
you mean America ?
have you ever been to the french/swiss/italian alps?
have you ever been to whistler?
have you ever been to japan?
i am guessing not since you think your slopes are the best in the world when it is clearly and statistically not true.
i know that utah has unbelievably great runs but it'd be cool if americans would stop saying "in the world" when half of y'all haven't even been overseas ... ever. there is a big planet out there waiting for you to expand your minds in.
tom yella wrote:
"I mean, the best ski resorts in the world " ???????
you mean America ?
have you ever been to the french/swiss/italian alps?
have you ever been to whistler?
have you ever been to japan?
i am guessing not since you think your slopes are the best in the world when it is clearly and statistically not true.
i know that utah has unbelievably great runs but it'd be cool if americans would stop saying "in the world" when half of y'all haven't even been overseas ... ever. there is a big planet out there waiting for you to expand your minds in.
You tell 'em, Yella!
Southeasterner wrote:
Thanks to everyone for responding so far.
Are the Utah public schools really bad? We don't stereotype anyone, but do they really preach Mormon practices in the schools? If we are not Mormon, could we get employed by the school system? Rumor has it that most public schools in Utah will be getting a D or F as their upcoming school grade this fall...are they that bad?
Denver is a larger area and we would love to live in an area that allows us to enjoy the trails easily. The only experience we have is co springs for a couple of days in the early 2000's...garden of the gods was nice, but want more than that. Denver schools don't seem that bad, so long as you live in the right areas ( which are ??)...
I work for at the District Office of one of the larger school districts in Utah. If I were to guess, I'd say about 50% of the employees in the district office are Mormon. I'm a non-Mormon and I don't feel like I'm treated any differently than I would be if I were Mormon. I don't think your religion would affect whether or not you got hired at a school district. It's not an issue in my school district.
Also, religion isn't taught in schools in Utah. Your kids will have as many Mormon teachers as they will non-Mormon teachers, and you likely won't be able to even tell. I was educated in Utah and I don't feel like religion in education was ever an issue here. People make it out to be a bigger deal than it really is.
As far as outdoor life and access to mountains and trails, you can't get a better location than the Salt Lake area. It's a great mix of city/outdoor life.
I live in SLC and have lived here for 18 years. As a non-Mormon I have never felt picked on or discriminated against by the Mormons. Ever.
Yeah, right. Salt Lake is 50-60% Mormons and they control everything. They all look down their noses at you, but will never say it to your face, because that would expose them for the jerks that they are. If you have kids, they will harass them for not being Mormon. And the non-Mormons are always hating on the Mormons, so it really is a culture full of hate and anger. I am leaving Salt Lake to move to Denver, because the problem is that bad.