Over the last couple weeks, several flights have been diverted to have passengers removed (and even arrested) for fighting over legroom. When the person in front of you reclines into your legs, what do you do? Shove back? Take it? Recline YOUR seat and perpetuate the problem? Or are you the one who started it all?
If I purchase a seat that reclines, I have the right to recline it. So does the person in front of me. If anyone shoves back I'm calling the attendant to straighten them out. Reclining my seat is not "perpetuating the problem." There is no problem. I have a reclining seat and I chose to recline it.
I was on a flight from Houston to Indianapolis on Sunday. The guy in front of me did a full on drop recline right into my legs. It pinned my leg and I had to yank my knee up and out to get it free. This shoved his seat forward pretty hard. It all happened in about 1 second, didn't mean it to be so forceful. He turned around and apologized profusely, and didn't try and recline again.
I'd been in Mexico for a couple weeks and hadn't heard about the fights. Wonder if that's why he reacted the way he did.
This is typical government oppressiveness, taking more and more freedom from citizens, with predictable consequences.
legroom seems to have shrunk a great deal over the years, making the experience of flying even worse, what with the airport security hassles, the lack of 'free' food, and the near absence of direct flights.
Straight outta LA wrote:
If I purchase a seat that reclines, I have the right to recline it. So does the person in front of me. If anyone shoves back I'm calling the attendant to straighten them out. Reclining my seat is not "perpetuating the problem." There is no problem. I have a reclining seat and I chose to recline it.
You have the right to pass gas and pick your nose on the plane too, do you do that? Or do you realize it isn't acceptable and refrain from doing it to not offend others?
I get up and proceed directly to the first class lavatory and then befoul It.
This just in: people act like entitled dicks on planes
Being 6'4", you can expect your seat to be kicked if you recline.
jjjjjjjjj wrote:
legroom seems to have shrunk a great deal over the years,
Yes. Reclining seats were no big deal 20 years ago when people had a lot more room. The seat hasn't changed but the amount of room has. This mean that a recline now takes a far greater % of room away from the person behind than it did 20 years ago.
Airlines should re-design recline so that instead of reclining the top into the space behind, it pushes the bottom of the seat forward into the cuurent seat user's space.
Fly Away wrote:
jjjjjjjjj wrote:legroom seems to have shrunk a great deal over the years,
Yes. Reclining seats were no big deal 20 years ago when people had a lot more room. The seat hasn't changed but the amount of room has. This mean that a recline now takes a far greater % of room away from the person behind than it did 20 years ago.
Airlines should re-design recline so that instead of reclining the top into the space behind, it pushes the bottom of the seat forward into the cuurent seat user's space.
Great idea. They could also design MUCH slimmer seats. You are seeing this in some automobiles now. The seats in the new Volvos take up much less room than the thickly padded seats of most vehicles.
This will cost money I realize and is why it probably won't happen.
I just stand my ground. My knees are a great "recline blocker".
firsttimeonthisputer wrote:
I just stand my ground. My knees are a great "recline blocker".
I am pretty strong and can almost certainly recline harder than your knees can resist. That's usually how I deal with it.
strong wrote:
firsttimeonthisputer wrote:I just stand my ground. My knees are a great "recline blocker".
I am pretty strong and can almost certainly recline harder than your knees can resist. That's usually how I deal with it.
Uh oh, I think we are going to need to divert this thread to the nearest airport if you two don't calm down.
Ole Timer wrote:
Over the last couple weeks, several flights have been diverted to have passengers removed (and even arrested) for fighting over legroom.
I know of a couple. Was there a third?
Yeah, three.
The United "knee defender" flight from Newark to Denver that diverted to O'hare.
Another from LaGuardia to Palm Beach...diverted to Jax..
Miami to Paris diverted to Boston...
ramin wrote:
Straight outta LA wrote:If I purchase a seat that reclines, I have the right to recline it. So does the person in front of me. If anyone shoves back I'm calling the attendant to straighten them out. Reclining my seat is not "perpetuating the problem." There is no problem. I have a reclining seat and I chose to recline it.
You have the right to pass gas and pick your nose on the plane too, do you do that? Or do you realize it isn't acceptable and refrain from doing it to not offend others?
That's quite a stretch to equate reclining a seat to picking your nose and passing gas. Is that some kind of weird logic you learned in liberal arts college?
Are you referring to the knitting needle episode?
Straight outta LA wrote:
ramin wrote:You have the right to pass gas and pick your nose on the plane too, do you do that? Or do you realize it isn't acceptable and refrain from doing it to not offend others?
That's quite a stretch to equate reclining a seat to picking your nose and passing gas. Is that some kind of weird logic you learned in liberal arts college?
Not a stretch at all. Each act, including reclining, is rude and inconsiderate.
Ole Timer wrote:
Yeah, three.
The United "knee defender" flight from Newark to Denver that diverted to O'hare.
Another from LaGuardia to Palm Beach...diverted to Jax..
Miami to Paris diverted to Boston...
That's quite a serious issue.
The seats need to be better designed with more room, and so they are not a threat to the passengers.